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It gave a linux beginner so much drive to learn the terminal and install a harder os lol. The firefox snap was the worst shit.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-21T09:24:54.268081Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.zip/comment/13445186","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10913800","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6837736,"name":"Eyck_of_denesle","banned":false,"published":"2024-02-18T04:15:00.326919Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.zip/u/Eyck_of_denesle","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":76},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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Or Fedora and rpms?\n\nThe packaging system that your distro provides gets you the packages you get. For a small number of packages that were a maintenance nightmare, Ubuntu provides a transitional debs to move people over to the snaps (e.g. Firefox, Thunderbird), but if you want to get it from another repo, you can do [exactly what KDE Neon does](https://origin.archive.neon.kde.org/release/pool/main/n/neon-repositories/) by setting your preferences.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T16:37:56.813428Z","updated":"2024-09-20T16:38:08.632953Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12425795","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684","distinguished":false,"language_id":37},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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But saying what amounts to \"if you don't know I'm not telling you\", especially when you weren't specifically asked, is a pretty unkind addition to the conversation.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T21:24:30.821012Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12430765","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10901803.10902047.10905474.10906280","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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(Fun fact: mozilla actually owns both the Firefox snap and the firefox package in the Ubuntu repos.) I'm non sure how that \"potentially introduces vulnerabilities\" any more than \"having a package which has dependencies\" does.\n\nI'm not sure what you're referring to with Docker. Canonical provides both the `docker.io` package in apt and the `docker` snap. Personally I use the snap on my machine because I need to be able to easily switch versions for my development work.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T22:00:09.566386Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12431317","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10901803.10902047.10905474.10906280.10906545.10906816","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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It was actually a commonly used attack a few years ago to burn up other CPU and GPU to generate crypto.\n\nYes, canonical provides both. Guess what? They screwed up, and introduced several vulnerabilities, and you ended up with both a snap and apt installed docker.\n\nThe fact that they are both packaged by Canonical is both irrelevant and a perfect example of the problem.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T22:30:05.381560Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/13551265","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10901803.10902047.10905474.10906280.10906545.10906816.10907250","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":7665942,"name":"curbstickle","display_name":"curbstickle","banned":false,"published":"2024-03-19T16:59:19.894820Z","actor_id":"https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/curbstickle","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":37},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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Google's official Chrome apt repo has debs for `google-chrome-stable`, `google-chrome-beta` and `google-chrome-unstable`, quite intentionally. \n\n> My comment about docker was a specific example of such a case, where vulnerabilities were introduced. It was actually a commonly used attack a few years ago to burn up other CPU and GPU to generate crypto\n\nCan you provide a link to a source about that? I can't find anything about it.\n\n> and you ended up with both a snap and apt installed docker\n\nIf you installed both the `docker.io` package from apt and the `docker` snap, yes you wound up with both. Just as if you install both `google-chrome-stable` and `chromium` you'll end up with two packages of (almost) the same browser.\n\n> The fact that they are both packaged by Canonical is both irrelevant and a perfect example of the problem.\n\nThen I'm gonna ask that you elaborate what specific problem you're trying to explain here, because these seem pretty contradictory.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T23:47:40.843347Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12433053","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10901803.10902047.10905474.10906280.10906545.10906816.10907250.10908338","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.","removed":false,"published":"2023-06-15T20:22:32.340233Z","updated":"2025-04-01T03:50:19.256683Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"actor_id":"https://lemmy.world/c/linuxmemes","local":false,"icon":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4271bdc6-5114-4749-a5a9-afbc82a99c78.png","banner":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4701d6d0-a080-461e-8a33-5927dd1809e6.png","hidden":false,"posting_restricted_to_mods":false,"instance_id":2,"visibility":"Public"},"counts":{"comment_id":10908338,"score":-2,"upvotes":2,"downvotes":4,"published":"2024-09-20T23:47:40.843347Z","child_count":0},"creator_banned_from_community":false,"banned_from_community":false,"creator_is_moderator":false,"creator_is_admin":false,"subscribed":"NotSubscribed","saved":false,"creator_blocked":false},{"comment":{"id":10903806,"creator_id":5245273,"post_id":14220021,"content":"> the thing people dislike about that is that you're silently moved from an open system to a closed-source one.\n\nYeah. 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Reasonable `apt` and `flatpak` alternates existed, but Canonical steered me to their closed repackaged versions.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T18:37:17.455220Z","updated":"2024-09-20T18:38:31.884612Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://programming.dev/comment/12424649","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10902225.10903806","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":5245273,"name":"MajorHavoc","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-03T05:58:24.679916Z","actor_id":"https://programming.dev/u/MajorHavoc","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":9},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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One could easily make a client app that treats `snapd` much the way `apt` treats `dpkg`. (In fact given `apt-rpm` I think it would probably be feasible to quite literally use apt for that.)\n\n> KDE seems to upload their packages to the snap store for Neon, judging from their page.\n\nKDE also maintains most of the flathub.org packages for KDE apps. Not sure what the point is here.\n\n> canonical are not the ones doing the maintenance for those apt packages. the debian team does that.\n\nThis is wrong in two ways. First, Canonical are the primary employers of a lot of Debian developers, including to do Debian maintenance or development. This includes at least one of the primary developers of apt. Canonical also [upstreams](https://canonical-ubuntu-packaging-guide.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/explanation/upstream-and-downstream/) a lot of their work to Debian. Second, of the three (!) whole packages that Canonical decided to make transitional packages to the snap, none were coming from upstream Debian. Firefox was being packaged by Mozilla (and Mozilla were the ones who decided to move it to the snap), Thunderbird's package had been something Canonical was packaging themselves [due to the Debian/Mozilla trademark dispute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian%E2%80%93Mozilla_trademark_dispute) that they never moved back to syncing from Debian due to technical issues with the port, and Chromium was, at least at the time, remaining frozen at old versions in a way that was unacceptable to Ubuntu users.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T18:34:50.687847Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12427997","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10902225.10903770","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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And anyway, the main point with the closed-server issue is that it's impossible to know what the server does other than serving packages. this is true for other package repositories to a certain extent since there's no real guarantee that they run the source code they show, but there's a distributed trust network there. as for the snap store, they could be doing anything in there.\n\n> KDE also maintains most of the flathub.org packages for KDE apps.\n\nwhat i was trying to get at is that they're not hosting their own thing. they *do* host their own flatpak repo but it seems to be only for nightlies so that point wasn't as strong as i originally thought.\n\n\n> Canonical are the primary employers of a lot of Debian developers, including to do Debian maintenance or development. This includes at least one of the primary developers of apt.\n\nthat does not mean that the particular developer agrees with or even approves of the snap thing. it's good to know though. i know they upstream, but that's sort of the bare minimum expected of them.\n\ni've not really used ubuntu desktop lately, but i've been hearing more complaints from friends about it deciding to install snaps instead of debs lately. steam was a big one that a friend had trouble with, and they just installed that though apt i'm pretty sure.\n","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T18:56:42.486242Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://feddit.nu/comment/10373961","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10902225.10903770.10904148","distinguished":false,"language_id":37},"creator":{"id":11610491,"name":"lime","display_name":"lime!","avatar":"https://feddit.nu/pictrs/image/ecd229d3-3d0c-4c21-a259-5a2eb0cbf5a1.jpeg","banned":false,"published":"2024-08-21T20:53:07.848503Z","actor_id":"https://feddit.nu/u/lime","bio":"🐘 [@lime@hachyderm.io ](https://hachyderm.io/@lime)","local":false,"deleted":false,"bot_account":false,"instance_id":77},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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But this, IMO, is a better argument for how flathub.org being (theoretically) open source doesn't *actually* make it any better than snapcraft.io. The technical hurdle, either of writing another snap store or of setting up a flatpak host, pales in comparison to the social hurdle of getting people to switch. Which is likely why the previous open snap store implementation died. Nobody wanted to host their own and convince people to switch, because at the end of the day there wasn't any benefit.\n\n> that does not mean that the particular developer agrees with or even approves of the snap thing.\n\nNever said it did, although in the particular case of [the developer I mentioned](https://github.com/julian-klode), he's also an Ubuntu Core developer, which depends entirely on snaps. I can't imagine he'd have put himself in that position if he were particularly anti-snap \n\n> steam was a big one that a friend had trouble with, and they just installed that though apt i’m pretty sure.\n\nUbuntu has never had a `steam` package in their apt repos, and the `steam-installer` package still behaves the same way as ever. Personally, I do use the Steam snap and haven't had any issues with it, though I do know that others have.","removed":false,"published":"2024-09-20T20:50:40.714822Z","deleted":false,"ap_id":"https://midwest.social/comment/12430213","local":false,"path":"0.10901431.10901684.10902225.10903770.10904148.10905793","distinguished":false,"language_id":0},"creator":{"id":6324352,"name":"lengau","banned":false,"published":"2024-01-29T19:28:24.723414Z","actor_id":"https://midwest.social/u/lengau","local":false,"deleted":false,"matrix_user_id":"@lengau:matrix.org","bot_account":false,"instance_id":5},"post":{"id":14220021,"name":"Snap bad","url":"https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/923e562a-0b60-4d74-9757-ec7e68227b90.jpeg","creator_id":6324352,"community_id":62,"removed":false,"locked":false,"published":"2024-09-20T15:13:16.398099Z","deleted":false,"nsfw":false,"thumbnail_url":"https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/13d49c88-13b1-413b-b9e4-0690b025b685.jpeg","ap_id":"https://midwest.social/post/17080763","local":false,"language_id":37,"featured_community":false,"featured_local":false},"community":{"id":62,"name":"linuxmemes","title":"linuxmemes","description":"Hint: `:q!`\n\n----\n\n\n::: spoiler Sister communities:\n* !tech_memes@lemmy.world\n* !memes@lemmy.world\n* !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world\n* !risa@startrek.website\n:::\n\n---\n\nCommunity rules (click to expand)\n:::spoiler 1. 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