Taliban's Massively Successful Opium Eradication Raises Questions About What US Was Doing All Along

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Imperialism and illicit drugs commonly go together. However, with Taliban opium eradication efforts in full effect, heroin is in short supply, and experts fear that a new fentanyl crisis could be brewing in the US.

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twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts.
So what conclusion do the facts support if not that the us is to blame for opium production during the occupation?
- So what conclusion do the facts support
  I’m not here to draw conclusions, just to present the facts (and object to when my words are twisted, when logical fallacies are used to argue against the facts, etc.), which is all I have done.
  
  Suggesting someone needs to twist themselves up in knots to blame the us for opium production during the occupation implies that the United States isn’t clearly responsible for opium production during the occupation.
  Unless theres another reason someone would have to twist themselves up in knots to get there, of course.
  That’s a conclusion. Now I’m not trying to get a gotcha or own or something here. I understand that sometimes when you get to talkin about something you might say things you don’t mean to. My question is how’d you get there?
  
  Suggesting someone needs to twist themselves up in knots to blame the us for opium production during the occupation implies that the United States isn’t clearly responsible for opium production during the occupation.
  had someone actually made such a suggestion, that would be interesting. when and where did that happen?
  Unless theres another reason someone would have to twist themselves up in knots to get there, of course
  I’m not here to speculate.
  That’s a conclusion
  ok,, goodbye!
  I understand that sometimes when you get to talkin about something you might say things you don’t mean to.
  I understand, and if you wish to apologize for twisting the things I said to try to win an argument, I’ll forgive you.
  My question is how’d you get there?
  probably the same way you did; using a web browser.
  
  had someone actually made such a suggestion, that would be interesting. when and where did that happen?
  Allow me to repeat myself:
  You, in this post:
  twisting yourself into knots just to blame the US is absurd and not supported by the facts.
  So, how’d you come to the conclusion that the us isn’t to blame for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?
  
  So, how’d you come to the conclusion that the us isn’t to blame for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?
  because there are zero facts to support it.
  
  you argument is fundamentally flawed. no matter how many ways you twist yourself up, twist my words, or twist anything else, you’re never going to successfully argue against the facts.
  you lost this argument hours ago. you’re just torturing yourself at this point.
  
  Quick response!
  Would you say that the United States is responsible for governing industrial and agricultural output during its occupation?
  
  first, as I’ve said, I’ve presented facts. I’m no here to discuss your straw man r be drawn into any rhetorical “traps” you might try to get me to admit something you can twist into something you can claim as a ‘win”— and I know that’s all you’re after here.
  I’m obviously not going to engage with you when I know you’re arguing in bad faith an from a flawed premise.
  it’s clear that you’re after some sort of catharsis - something to prove your hours of trolling was worth it, and I’m going to tell you now: you won’t get it from me.
  
  Lol believe me, the only thing I’ve gotten or expect to get from this interaction is a headache.
  I’m not using any strawmen or rhetorical traps (what even is that?) or twisting your words. If you feel attacked just tap out, there’s nothing to win or lose and a conversation on the internet isn’t worth getting heated over.
  What you said and I quoted a couple of times way earlier implies you don’t think the us was responsible for opium production during the occupation and I want to understand your viewpoint. Do you think the us was responsible for opium production during its occupation of Afghanistan?
  
  Lol believe me, the only thing I’ve gotten or expect to get from this interaction is a headache.
  you have only yourself to thank for that. after all,. you made the decision to come and troll my comments, and you’re the one who refuses to stop. ¯(ツ)_/¯
  I’m not using any strawmen or rhetorical traps (what even is that?) or twisting your words.
  except for the many, many times I clearly show you were, you said “nah-uh!” and we keep going around in circles.
  all because you refuse to admit you’re wrong and keep hatefully trolling me due to your deep-seated insecurities. because you just can’t walk away due to some hangup about what an internet stranger happens to think.
  but go on and deny that, too, and I’ll just keep repeating the same thing again and agin until the end of time.
  tired of losing yet? because I’m happy t keep telling you this forever.
  
  You said there were zero facts to support blaming the us for production during the occupation, so does that mean that the production didn’t happen or it wasn’t the occupation governments fault?
  There’s no wrong answer here. I’m not gonna send the stasi to break down your door for being a lib, I just want to understand how someone who clearly values logic and rhetoric came to that conclusion.

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