Is charging electric car at holiday house "theft"?
One problem for holidaymakers renting electric cars is that the charging infrastructure in rural areas isn't as thorough as it is on the UK's motorways.
Airbnb owner claims holiday makers running cables out the window is theft if electricity.
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I get the safety concerns but does she say "no charging cars" in the terms and conditions. I am not sure this is theft any more than charging mobile phones and tablets would be. If she is worried about how much electricity then take meter readings and make it accepted terms that all electricity is to be paid for. What if one guest choses to use the oven for a five course meal. Is that theft of electricry
IMO the electric oven is an appliance of the house, can be used at your better convenience. But the consumption of your car, was it by fuel or by electricity by charging a 80 - 100 kWh car battery, should not be supported by the property owner.
And you are comparing a phone battery with a car battery, I get that on paper it looks like that same but obviously this is messed up comparison. Sounds like comparing filling water for pasta cooking and filling a 40k L swimming pool…
In the end, the answer will be that renting prices will increase to support the extra electricity cost. And those not having an electric car will pay more for nothing more.
Better not charge your phone or laptop either then 🙄
A smartphone battery is about 4,000mAh a Tesla Model 3 is about 62kWh
One thing is not like another
Yeah you're comparing Amps to Watts, apples to oranges
4Ah at 5 volts is 20 watt hours, or 1/3100th of a Tesla battery.
You’re absolutely right. I’ll let you do the maths
A smartphone battery is usually operating at around 3.7V, so a 4500mAh cell would give you about 17Wh.
Oh no, oh no, it's a few pence worth of electricity. Screeching noises THIEF!! HOW DARE YOU USE THE INCLUDED UTILITIES
According to my quick calculations- my current home tariff is 31p per kilowatt hour
A Tesla model 3 has a 62kWh - so about £19 to recharge. If I’m staying there a couple of weeks and intend to drive heavily that would mount up. I’d definitely check with the house owner as a courtesy
Air conditioning is usually 55 kWh per day. Electric furnaces are 25 kWh per day. Going to check with them before you use that too?
Air conditioning isn't generally used in the UK, and no way would it take 55kWh a day to bring one of our houses a few degrees down. Most UK households use less than 10kWh a day total.
There’s absolutely no way that this home owner in North Wales would have aircon.
But use of a built in appliance is not the same as running a cable out to power something that is likely to double the household’s normal usage. Just ask.
It's exactly the same except larger, unless you think the car is somehow pulling more than the house can give, which isn't how that works like, at all.
The size is exactly what matters. I think we can all agree that filling up a 5,000 gallon water tank with tap water from a vacation home isn't acceptable use.
So the only question is at what point becomes the use too much. A single car might seem harmless but what if it's a group of 4 all arriving with their own car, charging it at the home.
Clarifying what's acceptable and what isn't, is the right decision.
It’s about £19 to completely recharge the Tesla. A fraction of a penny to recharge the phone. It’s polite to ask
I get it's different, but is it theft. If there was a wattmeter and I filled an inflatable swimming pools every day would that be theft... What if I brought an inflatable hot tub and ran the heater for the week. If electricity is included in the rate that implies the guest can use what they want