What is one moral you have that most people don't agree with?
Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
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Edit2: IP= intellectal property
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Being trans, gay, bi, black, or a different ethnicity than what is considered 'normal' in your society doesn't make you special, or less than human. I support trans rights and want to treat all humans equally on a base level. Assuming someone who looks or sounds like a woman is a woman is not transphobic, even if they are a trans man. Nor is assuming a man is straight homophobic.
At the same time, I think it's strange to introduce yourself as trans or gay in a public setting or on a social platform as if it's your calling card or occupation to be proud of. I was born with double-jointed thumbs, I don't think I should be congratulated or mocked for that, the same I don't think someone born with a man's body and a woman's brain, or otherwise decides to identify as a woman later in life, or is sexually attracted to either anything or nothing, should be given more than a passing acknowledgement.
I understand the world is cruel and harsh, and so I understand why there needs to be an LGBTQ community, but there -shouldn't- be one.
I understand the world is cruel and harsh, and so I understand why there needs to be an LGBTQ community, but there -shouldn’t- be one.
By the same argument, there shouldn't be a straight community, with institutions and laws and religion that assume it to be the default, the tabula rasa of humanity.
Really, you're just arguing against the fact we exist within a historical context. You can try and cut it away - except! Oops! In doing so, you just added yet more history to the pile!
Well I'm not really arguing against anything, the question was what moral do I hold that I don't think most people agree with.
By the same argument, there shouldn't be a straight community
Yes, that's basically what I said. I would prefer we live in a world where sexual orientation is no more prevalent a feature to define someone than their hair color. I wish there didn't need to be laws for or against gay marriage, or rights for specific types of people over others. But this is reality and not a hopeful fantasy, so again I understand the the need for the LGBTQ community, and laws to protect and represent the people part of it. But at the same time, I personally don't think anyone should be celebrated (or mocked) for being part of it.
I get what you're saying, but reducing it down to a thing we have because we need it is... overly clinical? Not particularly hopeful, anyway. Even if sexuality didn't have the historical baggage that it does, I think things would still trend towards a community. People form a sense of shared identity over things. It's what people do.
That's true I suppose. I may be overly cynical (and clinical) when it comes to such things, I think that stems from the extremely stifling household I grew up in, where my parents wanted me to be religious, wanted everyone to know I was religious, and wanted me to let everyone know I was religious, as if I was a lucky one to find salvation. At some point the browbeating wore off, and I realized whatever opinions and beliefs I held didn't make me more or less than anyone else, and that no one else's would make them any more or less than the average human to me. (So long as their opinions and beliefs don't bring harm to others, that is.)
I honestly agree 100%. I support all my LGBTIQ+ people, but in an ideal world I really shouldn't need to. My support is purely there because there are people who actively want to hurt them, and for no other reason. Part of me worries that some of this support can come across as special treatment
Similarly, I wish people would stop bringing stuff like their sexuality/gender up without prompt, it just comes off as... self-centred, I guess? Bonus points if it's in their twitter handle
That being said, probably my best online friend was a trans girl (mtf). None of our conversations revolved around them being trans, we just played games and laughed together. Good times
I actually have a friend like that as well. We played a lot of games and participated in roleplay communities together. I didn't even know she was trans until one of her friends brought it up for some reason. My reaction was just kind, "Oh, neat, anyway."
I have a different friend who I knew before her transition who is a lot more vocal about such a thing, and while I do respect her decisions she definitely wears it as a badge of honor. A few months ago we were playing Minecraft with some of her friends, and I didn't know any of them.
One of them (to me) had a feminine name and a feminine voice, so when I was talking to my friend, I asked "Hey where did Zoey (example name) go? I need to give her some iron." And my friend immediately cut me off to correct me that he was a he, and that he was trans, with a very angry tone to her voice. I understand misgendering may be a problem... but how was I supposed to know? We're faceless voices across the internet, I know referring to everyone as they/them is 'safer', but that's a little ridiculous to me (Especially because I've met some people who -don't- want to be referred to with gender neutral pronouns)
I know that might sound hypocritical, that I don't think people should introduce themselves as trans or anything else, and that I shouldn't be villified for making an innocent misassumption. Having my cake and eating it too.
I would assume the goal of transitioning is for people to believe you are what you say you are, without the label of trans. I'd never have guessed that my rp friend was trans, and similarly if my friend had not told me their friend was trans, I would have just assumed he was a feminine guy, and not a trans man.
At the same time, I think it’s strange to introduce yourself as trans or gay in a public setting or on a social platform as if it’s your calling card or occupation to be proud of.
I understand the world is cruel and harsh, and so I understand why there needs to be an LGBTQ community, but there -shouldn’t- be one.
Are you saying there shouldn't be one because it's a strange thing, or are you saying there shouldn't be one because we shouldn't need one?
They're saying that there shouldn't be one because we shouldn't need one.
All spectrum of existence and life is valid equally. No discrimination due to no prosecution occurring across the spectrum and therefore no aspect of the range is special. When none is special, then there is no reason to center an identity around it BECAUSE it's accepted by society.
As a thought experiment, imagine if we discriminated based on height and based an entire identity on introducing yourself as a "#mountain queen👸" or something
Ah, I understand, I agree then.
To be fair, people do discriminate based on height too, do they not?
People make fun of short guys, tall girls, etc.