What is one moral you have that most people don't agree with?
Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion
Edit2: IP= intellectal property
Edit3: sort by controversal
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I treat all people with religious beliefs as members of a dormant terrorist cell.
They could be your nice neighbor with whom you can interact normally on a day-to-day basis, but in the end they all have compromised against logic and, in the right conditions, that is a terrible liability.
Under extenuating circumstances your argument does hold true. However being religious doesn't automatically mean you are not smart or somehow incapable of logic.
Exactly, you can conduct most interactions without problems and a good portion of them will even share the same views as me (a non-tankie-leftie).
The best depiction of what I mean on film has been given by Marcia Gay Harden in The Mist, in my opinion.
That is the kind of situation I prefigure whenever someone discloses faith to me, minus the tentacles.
Loved that movie. I guess I see where you're coming from; but your rhetoric stinks of elitism and condescension.
You are probably overestimating how much thought everyone who expressed a disagreeable moral here gives to that issue. Theists are the last of my problems.
Yeah still condescending. Whatevs
Sounds kinda mean
Not as mean as the Spanish Inquisition or the Salem Witch Trials. Those are just a couple of small examples of what religious freaks do when no one stops them.
Sounds like I have some reading to do on those topics. It is weird when you see evil people wearing a cross for example, but I think they'd be just as evil without their religion? But yeah I'm sure their religion is a way for evil people to reason with themselves about what they do.
"How dare you speak against the authority of the church or practice any religion but mine. That's heresy! You will be tortured until you confess your sin. You might escape execution if you are willing to implicate others in your conspiracy against God. If you insist upon your innocence, the only result can be execution. We already know you're guilty, that's why you are here." That's both events in a nutshell.
As a progressive Christian that has spent my entire life actively helping the poor, needy, and visitors to our lands may I say a full throated 'fuck you' to you and everyone like you.
Every time I see someone like you paint every theist with the same brush they dip for regressive protestants it makes my efforts to counter their vile spew that much more burdensome. But you do you. I guess. At some point I'm just going to stop trying bc I'm tired of being lumped together with the 'god hates fags' crowd.
I hope your childish bigotry is worth losing 1/3 of your allies
This is the kind of response I am used to: swearing due to offended identity, inherently divisive terminology like "our lands" and blaming for causing you to lose theist intestine wars.
Having tried a lot in the past, I know that a comment thread is not the place or modality to conduct a fruitful conversation with a Christian.
Being born a Catholic, I can tell you that epiphany came when I realized that all the good things I am sure you did do not need to bring with them the mark of a (made up) system of power: you own it yourself and the real animus driving your actions can be just a feeling of belonging to the human species at large, a species free to roam any land without the need to plant flags nor to feel attached to any place only to limit the potential of others and one's own.
I have EDS and am medically angry nearly all of the time, it is in my fucking profile. It is a burden for me to mask my coms style and frankly anyone who expects it is too thin skinned to be worth talking to anyway. Using my response to justify your persistent bigotry is entirely you my friend and I can guarantee you that I am not like anyone you have ever spoken to before.
I too was born Catholic, Catechism and everything, and became an atheist at age 14, then an anti-theist at 20.
There is literally no argument you can make that I haven't already made better
And at 30 I had an experience that profoundly changed my perspective and I abandoned my childish atheism and have been a gnostic Christian ever since.
Every one of my past arguments were laid bare for what they were: Justifications for me to continue to live a life that I desired, instead of the life my creator made me for.
I would truly enjoy a spirited debate with atheists, and I have tried to have such since before the internet had pictures, but sadly I haven't found more than a clumsy shopkeeper's handful of you that could maintain intellectual honesty for more than 3 posts.
Wait a second... gnostic like in Gnostic? I didn't know it was still a thing. I thought they had you all killed by the other Christians in the 2nd century.
Not completely, there were holdouts in Ethiopia and Iraq but the writings survived and are only more applicable today.
Point of order: In my case the supposedly heretical sect label happened to apply but when most Christians use lowercase 'g' gnostic they are referring to the fact that they have certainty that God exists via inner secret knowledge.
While that does hold true for the myriad of sects labeled as 'Gnostic', there is a ton more conceptual dogma that is not considered true by most lowercase 'g' gnostics
Not that any of you heathens really care.