In Seoul, a woman attempting suicide by jumping from the 20th floor was saved when a bystander grabbed her by the hair and held on until help arrived.
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Did she change her mind? Kind of looked like she was hanging on for dear life, and then willingly climbed back up with help, rather than resisting it.
It's usually done under influence - not drugs, but the high of emotions, self-talk spiral, setting one's mind to it, etc, to overcome the will to survive. A sudden shock can break it all down. And that kind of shock she had, and pain, and danger, would make one default to instincts and either climb out yourself or follow the command of others. She was probably unavailiable for a hour or two after it happened, still shaking and afraid of what happened and what did not.
"It was at that moment immediately after jumping from the bridge that I realised that all of the problems in my life that seemed so severe and so unsolvable were actually not so, apart from the fact that I had just jumped off of a bridge."
I don't remember where this quote is from, or if its fact or fiction.
It was said by someone who survived jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
I think it was in the documentary "The Bridge."
Yep and completely negating that are the examples of people who lived, climbed back up and did it again. That’s why I don’t like this quote and that guy.
With you there. The fact that he'd tell his story when it isn't universally applicable to everyone is frankly ridiculous, and it is very rude of him to have personal experiences that don't fit into your world view
Thought you were being serious for a second.
The dude is lying by omission. He is aware of these counterexamples and essentially implies everyone who has jumped feels that.
The person being rude about a personal experience that doesn’t fit others’ worldviews is him.
Kind of odd to actively dislike them, the reality is everyone feels a bit different, one person's story doesn't invalidate others and vice versa.
If it helps keep some people around longer that's not so bad right?
"The view from halfway down."
She wanted to die, not pull someone with her.
At least do it in a place away from everyone else. She could have hit someone on the street or traumatized someone who witnessed her sudden stop.
Have you ever had actual suicidal thoughts?You are constantly fighting yourself under immense stress and panic. It's not like planning for a vacation, reading reviews and choosing the best destinations.
I would not pretend to know what's going on in the minds of depressed suicidal people but I do really support assisted suicide. It's safe and painless. If people have access to those services would they still choose jumping off buildings?
Because sometimes suicide can also be about making a statement.
“[X] had me suffering so bad I had no choice but to kill myself. I want people to understand how bad and unbearable it was to take me to this point. I want it to be in the news. I don’t want it to be swept under the rug.”
Also consider the last thing something someone who’se in a position so bad they want to die, and often who feels completely abandoned by society and “the system”, is to start a grueling bureaucratic procedure. To have to face their friends and family and explain they want to die… etc.
Sometimes it’s the easier way to end the suffering quicker.
I agree, the issue is always the process of offering that to someone. I think we need to make sure people have access to all the mental health support they need before we can convince people that assisted suicide needs to exist.
This big time.
As a disabled person it’s quite horrifying to live under the poverty line barely alive and the only help the government will offer me is assisted suicide.
If living a dignified life isn’t an option, it’s almost forcing many of us to go the suicide route.
When what we’d rather have is more accommodations and support. And be able to enjoy our lives.
(As a recent example, the UK slashed disability income to far below the poverty line and is legalising assisted suicide for disabled people. What kind of message does that send?)