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Please, UI designers

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I really dont know. I dont select text while I read it? I get the frustration but what's the majority? If your in the minority I dont think you should be ignored but also I dont know how they cater to everyone.
I say, the majority adopt something they adopt it because that's how the majority like it. If the majority disagrees make changes to suit their needs. If the resources exist to cater to everyone, cater to everyone. If not, as a member of the minority, its on you to find a work around or move on.
- How often do you actually use a pop-up that comes up when selecting text? And is it really more convenient than selecting followed by a right click, or pressing a shortcut?
  Even if the people who select text while reading are in the minority, this post shows it’s a large minority. And I’m quite convinced that the number of times such a pop-up is used, is also a minority.
  
  It's as annoying as the floating context bar in Illustrator and Photoshop. And i dont even typically select text while reading it
  
  Im not arguing that it is great feature just that it doesn't bother me. Not in the way someone who selects text while they read would. I even say if the majority of people agreed with OP I'd be fine with the changed UI. I just dont like the idea that you can shout "cater to me" and that's automatically a valid opinion because there is some consensus.
  
  Yeah but the thing is…there’s no reason to have some bullshit .js do some weird unexpected thing when I select text on a website. There just isn’t.
  Not only is the function never the same between sites, leading to a new experience for my brain to deal with each time, but it’s also obnoxious business bro bullshit that has no place on the WWW.
- Oh you sweet innocent child.
  I say, the majority adopt something they adopt it because that’s how the majority like it.
  In the world of UIs, majorities "adopt" something they adopt because it's the default, imposed, and people tend to just not change the defaults (or it flat out can't be done).
  but also I dont know how they cater to everyone
  Add it as a tunable in settings? Most stuff has settings, it's marginal zero effort to add a new one.
  
  In the world of UIs, majorities “adopt” something they adopt because it’s the default, imposed, and people tend to just not change the defaults (or it flat out can’t be done).
  If they willingly adopt it then its not an issue, no?
  Add it as a tunable in settings? Most stuff has settings, it’s marginal zero effort to add a new one.
  If its so easy they should equally be capable of implementing their own work around, no?
  
  Whether its something that people adopted willingly or not makes no difference to whether it's an issue. Most things can still be (or still have to be) improved. And once again, "adopt" is sus. As is "willingly" (are you "willingly" accepting something that marketing tells you to be true?).
  If its so easy they should equally be capable of implementing their own work around, no?
  That's something that is done sometimes, yes. Say, Librewolf could restore some tunables that were removed from Firefox. But that still depends on how invasive the change is (and on whether you can actually implement a workaround or not, which means you'd need the code, a build system, etc).
- You cater everyone by putting a context menu in that comes up when you right click or long press on a touch screen. This problem has been solved for decades. Applications aren't designed by the majority. They're designed by a handful of developers who I suspect are usually ordered to do shit by some moron project manager that just wants changes made so they can report to their superiors that they did something.
- If this is the case, then the majority of people know how to copy text. It's basic functionality of a desktop computer.
  So, just let us select text without useless popups!
  
  Fine. Except Im not really sure what the younger generations are up to these days. I think covid and two trump presidencys are going to have some real detrimental effects to the tech space.
  
  My two cents is that we've been in the wild west of the internet and suitable regulations aren't in place.
  I refer mostly to all the straight up anti-competitive, anti-consumer, anti-privacy practices that are rampant.
  Though, I do not hold hope for it to be well-regulated any time soon 😅

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