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‘Please walk away from Harry Potter’: why the stars of HBO’s new TV show are in for decades of social media hell

www.theguardian.com ‘Please walk away from Harry Potter’: why the stars of HBO’s new TV show are in for decades of social media hell

The internet is already exploding about Katherine Parkinson, John Lithgow and Paapa Essiedu signing up to the new Hogwarts adventures – and it hasn’t even started filming

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Because they're supporting the anti-trans hag?
- The parents of the child actors should be getting plenty of pushback. Exploiting their kids like this is gross.
  It's like seeing pictures of kids in KKK robes.
  
  Wanting children to get hate for some other woman's opinions is wild lol
  Before I get more down votes. They clearly said. "Should".
  
  They’re talking about the parents…
  
  How naive of you.
  
  They clearly said. "The parents".
  
  I understand what they said. I was implying towards society. Not that commentator. And you fucking know that lol
  
  What?! No, in no way did that come across, especially not when you very clearly directed it at the other commenter when you said "They clearly said. "Should".".
  
  If the parents "should" get hate. What the fuck do you think happens to their kids? Please elaborate fully with your actual brain. I can't wait.
  
  What the fuck do you think happens to their kids?
  Not get hate? Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
  
  Because that's not how reality works
  
  You are so fucking naive.
  
  No? Just gonna downvote but don't want to admit how much hate you are spewing on those innocent children? Or are they horrible for accepting evil JKs money (even if they don't know her stance) ?
  
  Sorry. I wasn't the one to downvote you, maybe it was the person who upvoted me?
  I'm not replying because I don't want to drag myself into an argument on the Internet.
  
  I hope you have a good weekend. 💜
- It's almost like we shouldn't blame others for another. I dunno. Maybe I'm a trans hater like the trans community wants to paint anyone that enjoys Harry Potter.
  
  Brother, it’s Harry Potter which is not exactly a thing you can’t live without lmfao
  You’re making it sound like they’re asking you to give up breathing
  
  I can choose what I can and cannot live without. Without your insane judgment and ideas off a single situation. But alas. Nuance is lost on modern society.
  
  Nuance? Nuance is not to jump to conclusions about the entire trans community and the "insane judgement" of anyone who disagrees with you. You're making all kinds of assumptions and not demonstrating much ability with nuance so far.
  
  I was told earlier to walk into the sea for my opinion of enjoying Harry Potter. I am not generalizing
  
  you were told to go swimming? are you a cat do you hate water or something?
  
  Lol. Insane.
  
  Saying "I can't live without Harry Potter", that's hyperbole. Or if you're serious, it's just funny.
  The argument is that funding Harry Potter directly funds JJ Rowling - whom then proudly and openly uses her wealth to pay for campaigns to enact anti-trans legislation and pays suppot to regressive anti-LGBTQ groups. Its a boycott.
  People are justified in judging those who know this yet continue to support Rowling's products monetarily or act in them as LGBT hostile.
  From all the online back and forth I've seen though, few care if you pirate them therefore denying monetary support <- that's nuance.
  
  Upon re reading it does come off that way but I was using the previous commentarys language towards it not being serious that I couldn't live without it. Apologies lol
  
  Ah, all good. I didn't downvote either way, just commented to try to make sense of the discussion. Sarcasm or facetious language is easily lost over text - thanks for clarifying
  
  Ever read the Stormlight Archives? You might enjoy them
  
  I have not. Will check it out though. Ty for insight.
  Edit: ah Sanderson. I'm reading Elantris rn!
  
  If you’re going to make broad generalizations about every trans person like that, I mean, maybe. There are trans people that read HP and trans people that don’t GAF.
  
  Agreed. Thank you for understanding nuance. Unlike others here.
  
  I didn’t say I agreed with either of those groups of trans people. They just exist, and flattening trans people as a whole into a one dimensional caricature to frame yourself as a victim is crass any time, doubly so during Pride month.
  
  I didn't say I agreed with any groups of people either. Wtf are you even saying here? Lol
  
  Maybe I’m a trans hater like the trans community wants to paint anyone that enjoys Harry Potter.
  That kind of wild generalization certainly makes you sound like a trans hater.
  No one is claiming that everyone who likes Harry Potter hates trans people. But any interaction you have with Harry Potter books, movies, merchandise, etc. makes money for one of the most prominent trans haters in the world and helps her to spread her hateful message. At least pirate her stuff if you care.
  
  If you cared you'd know I am a pirate already by my comments here. But. You. Don't.
  
  Yes. You are. We are asking you not to engage with a very specific thing, and you are refusing. You are stamping your feet like a toddler that we are asking you not to give money to someone that is using that money to fund anti-trans lobbying.
  So yes, you are a "trans hater" and need to do better.
  
  Nonsense. Not agreeing with you does not paint me as a hater. That is extreme cap. Get outta your bubble lol
  
  Also what money. I haven't given anyone money. I'm a pirate you dunce.
  
  You don't see how cultural relevance has caused HBO to cut JK Rowling a check in order to make this show, which she then turns around and donates to anti-trans organizations?
  Pirate or not, people watching and interacting with this stuff and talking about it with other people keeps it in the public consciousness. As long as it remains part of the zeitgeist then Rowling continues to profit from it.
  It's quite easy to find other, better stories about wizards that don't directly fund bigotry. I recommend Dresden Files.
  
  Jim Butcher is also… not great
  
  This is news to me, but I hardly know everything there is to know about him.
  Any specifics? I would like to know. I recommend his books frequently.
  
  I'm allowed to enjoy what I enjoy without your personal judgment. I assure you I am an ally but you don't care because I like Harry Potter.
  
  I assure you I am an ally
  An ally wouldn't make generalizations about all trans people like this:
  Maybe I’m a trans hater like the trans community wants to paint anyone that enjoys Harry Potter.
  
  Why not when feeling attacked by a community they defend naturally?
  
  you literally came into this thread with an agenda
  
  What? Lol I do not have an agenda. I'm just some dude that wants to enjoy trans people and Harry Potter. (That doesn't give JK any money).
  
  Feigning ignorance of the meaning of the word "agenda" is not a defense.
  You have an agenda. You went in the comments to spread it. And it's incredibly obvious to anyone who can read.
  
  I personally do not have an agenda I am aware of. It might appear in that fashion but again. I am a single person with my own emotions and my own feelings informed on my experiences. I am not intended to be some one else's fucking champion. I'm just annoyed at this exact bullshit in our society. We might agree on literally 99.99% of everything else. But you won't care. Cause I like Harry Potter!
  
  Attempting to both deny your agenda and then asserting it in the same comment. Truly peak.
  
  Does agenda mean opinion? I'm confused here actually
  
  You came into a comment thread, unsolicited, shared your opinion, and then jumped on every opportunity to argue, in bad faith btw, against much more levelheaded and informed opinion. You reek of enlightened centrism.
  
  You came into a comment thread, like everyone else does. Unsolicited, shared your opinion, just like you are right now, and then jumped on every opportunity to argue, here you still are trying to argue?, in bad faith? Maybe. Not on purpose I'm divergent so maybe I dunno sometimes. Levelheaded? I dunno. Seems about the same level based on above? Informed? Says who you? Confused on that.
  
  Oh man, nice, that's great. Did you figure it out yet?
  
  Same level. LOL.
  
  Or alcohol?
  
  Didn't ask?
  
  Oh yeah, you're a trans hater if you're paying for any HP media. No doubt or questions about it. Straight up scumbag move to be funding that shit.
  If you're paying her, you're part of the reason she has so much money to give her anti-trans organisations. It's directly causal and you need to take responsibility for where you're sending your money. 🙏
  
  What is there to even enjoy? The world building is trash, the characters are shallow, and the setting is mid and bland. You really going to die on this hill?
  Read another book, I'm begging you.
  
  In your opinion.
  Learn to let people enjoy what they enjoy and stop hating people's personal opinions when they don't align?
  
  The books are a bit shit tho
  
  Re read my comment. IDC about your opinion. I'm taking about mine?
  
  No, I hate that you're giving money to a transphobe that wants me dead. You are responsible for what your money does.
  I just look down on you for having shit tastes.
  These are totally different positions.
  Read another book.
  
  As I've stated. I don't spend money on her. So learn to read before judging. Lol
  
  I also hate that you're defending people who give money to the transphobe. Whether you give her your money or not doesn't change the fact that you're going to bat for people who do give her their money.
  If all of her fans only pirated I wouldn't mind.
  
  Blanket hate is sad.
  
  Supporting transphobes puts my life in danger. I might get fucking killed because of some bullshit this billionaire funded.
  
  You get the irony of saying that in this context, right?

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