Canadians upset Carney caved to Trump over digital services tax
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/06/30/canadians-react-to-cancelling-digital-services-tax/
Duh. No one elected them to go elbows down. Gonna be a short lived minority.
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Out of curiousity, how many workers should lose their jobs to appease your sense of righteousness?
A trade negotiation is not the same as bowing to fascism.
Uhhhh in case you didn’t notice - when Amazon in QC unionized, Amazon pulled out of Quebec. We don’t need US digital services, it’s one of the easiest things we can replace. Might be a headache for some workplaces to get off Microsoft, SharePoint, or azure but ultimately - it’s not that hard. IT can do it. We have server farms and digital services in Canada. It’s easy to replace as opposed to say, re-tooling a car factory.
Do you really need Facebook, X, Apple, Netflix, Disney+ shitmaganda!? Or can you grab what you want from Crave or the high Cs. Our newspapers are largely already owned by US hedge fund billionaire massive global corporations - so taxing them at a minuscule rate is nothing to them. And they are free to fuck off doing business in our country if they don’t like the DST. This was a cowardly and weak capitulation on the part of Carney - unless we are infact joining the EU and OECD on a digital service tax as part of a bloc of countries (which could track).
But right now, we don’t know - so am skeptical about what Carney just gave up.
Lol, A) it's pretty clear you have no idea what the DST is and what it does.
B) Jesus lord, for most offices, converting off Microsoft would be an insane task and a huge IT cost.
I know Lemmy skews young but this is nonsensical.
Yeah, as someone who works in Enterprise environments, I don't understand where this attitude that it would be easy is coming from.
Fully migrating off those services could take years for some organizations, just like it took years to get them to the level of functionality and interconnectivity they are at today.
The attitude is coming from wishful thinking untempered by knowledge or experience.
If the reason for doing the wrong thing is “the jobs” then you need to rethink your reasoning.
Trump can’t be trusted. Canada did negotiate a new deal first admin, only for Trump to come screaming again saying it was terrible and demanding a new one. It’s bad policy to concede to the US right now.
It's a trade negotiation, it's literally all about the jobs.
I get that you aren't affected but thousands are.
By your logic, we should just not do anything with our largest trading partner and I dunno, just wait for almost half a decade until we like the administration?
I get that you aren’t affected but thousands are.
I don’t know where on earth you got the idea that this doesn’t impact me.
The cavalier attitude is a big give away. Usually folks worried about their kids and mortgages understand the costs.
And you would know because you are also impacted?
No, I guess being well read and having empathy kind of allow me to consider how things affect other Canadians who are not me?
Oh God you're insufferable.
And correct.
So far, the replies have been "everyone should just drop all American services, that's a minor detail for IT" and "a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn't actually about jobs."
I get the kneejerk reaction but damn, this is silly bordering on depressing.
and correct
So far, the replies have been "everyone should just drop all American services, that's a minor detail for IT" and "a trillion dollar trade negotiation isn't actually about jobs."
Incorrect.
That is not what I said at all.
If the reason for doing the wrong thing is “the jobs” then you need to rethink your reasoning.
So despite the fact that you don’t have proximity to the issue, you’re able to use your reasoning and knowledge of the matter to come up with a valid opinion we all have to respect. But you assume I am not in close proximity to the issue, so I’m not allowed to do that. Is that about right? Just want to make sure we’re on the same page here
Nope, re-read what I wrote. What in there says you can't come up with a valid opinion?
It's more "your opinion doesn't seem to give any weight, relief or aid to those who are affected in any way shape or form."
It's a trade negotiation, it's literally all about the jobs.
I get that you aren't affected but thousands are.
By your logic, we should just not do anything with our largest trading partner and I dunno, just wait for almost half a decade until we like the administration?
Ah my bad so you have some established right to indicate which of us can speak as to what’s best for the Canadian people (you) and the other can’t (me). Because…reasons?
I’m trying here man. I’m literally just trying to establish a baseline. You’re not making it easy
so you have some established right to indicate which of us can speak as to what’s best for the Canadian people (you) and the other can’t (me). Because…reasons?
What in what I wrote leads you to this?
I correctly noted this doesn't affect you and that it does affect mamy.
Your position, as far as I can tell is:
If the reason for doing the wrong thing is “the jobs” then you need to rethink your reasoning.
... It’s bad policy to concede to the US right now.
I think that the jobs really do matter to a lot of people and that when the US has significantly more leverage you Canada has very few options.
Again, noting that your position really hurts a lot of people doesn't mean you can't have a position rather, it's that you support a position that really hurts people.