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Superule

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how was kal el illegal? there were no laws against extraterrestrial beings, were there?
- He came to America without a visa as an unaccompanied minor, and his "parents" falsified records to claim him as their own.
  
  Going to need that comic book where ICE arrests Superman and he punches a ICE's facemask off to reveal a KKK hood.
  
  Superman fights to dismantle ICE, but it's a political body with billions of dollars that exists because of the will of the Republican party. He can't just go around punching thousands of masked ICE agents.
  Or can he?
  
  I mean, dude can move at the speed of light. Nothing between him and thousands of ICE agents but air and opportunity.
  
  He could if he wanted, stop every war on the planet in an hour.
  
  Yeah, but then we get Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, and nobody wants that.
  
  If the nerds can figure out how long it'll take to jerk off everyone in the audience... They can figure out how long it'll take for Superman to punch every ICE agent.
  
  Actually, and this may not apply to the current/new Superman but likely would the original Superman, based on the Nationality Act of 1940 Superman could be considered a child found in the United States with unknown parentage.
- He wasn't born in the US, he just landed there.
  If he is a citizen, then Ma and Pa Kent knowingly forged the paperwork and his citizenship is invalid.
  
  an arctic tern isn't a birth citizen. a canadian goose isn't a birth citizen. they just lands there in winter en route to warmer climes.
  it's not illegal for them to do so.
  kal el was as human as ET. laws made for man should not apply to him.
  
  laws made for a man shoukd not apply
  I cannot think of a dumber take I've seen recently.
  @ lemmy.world
  Oh.
- If they aren't a birth citizen they're an immigrant by default, and generally speaking you need permission to cross a border, even from the sky.
  
  that logic would make all migratory birds illegal. imaginary lines drawn by men do not have legal significance in such cases (except for smuggling scenarios, which kal el's was not).
  
  Birds aren't people. Except Hawkgirl.
  
  No longer legally a person in the united states. Not for the hawk part.
  
  but kryptonians aren't people, either. without exception.
  
  They aren't human. Doesn't mean they aren't people.
  And comic book universes probably have a lot of rules about that kind of thing, since there's a lot of non-human people running around (like the aforementioned Hawkgirl).
  
  there's no probably about it. baby kal el was not people at the time of its entry into the earth's atmosphere.
  unless--i'll grant you this--the assertion is that the superman universe overlapped with the MIB universe, where agreements and laws did exist for the immigration of extraterrestrial beings onto earth.

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