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WATCH: Hamas blocks IDF fuel delivery to Gaza's Shifa Hospital

www.jpost.com WATCH: Hamas blocks IDF fuel delivery to Gaza's Shifa Hospital

The IDF released three separate recordings of the event.

By MAYA ZANGER-NADIS NOVEMBER 12, 2023 19:09 Updated: NOVEMBER 12, 2023 21:26

Israeli security forces delivered 300 liters of diesel fuel to Shifa Hospital in Gaza early Sunday morning and later received intelligence indicating that Hamas had intercepted the delivery, according to a Sunday night IDF statement.

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Yep, it's a real common problem when the government of a country (Hamas in this case) is fundamentally untrustworthy. Makes delivering meaningful aid near impossible.
- The current governing party of the Palestinian State is Fatah, that government is not recognized by all nations however, those countries recognize an Israeli occupation instead. What government problems are you referring to by the way?
  
  The current governing party of the Palestinian State is Fatah
  The current governing party of Palestine in the West Bank is Fatah, but this story did not happen there.
  The current government of Palestine in Gaza is Hamas. Hamas has been the government of Palestine in Gaza since 2006.
  
  It's correct to describe Hamas as the ruling government in Gaza. The error is when people describe it as the elected government. Hamas was elected once; then they cancelled any further elections so they could stay in power after fucking over everyone else who lives there.
  
  You can tell when someone is trying to push an agenda when they refer to Hamas being the government and that the people support it. It's like if the January 6th fucknuts succeeded in keeping trump in office and then he manages to take total power, very few people in the western world would seriously believe that most Americans would support Trump.
  
  I think the difference is the polling in the region that suggests that if elections were held today, not only would Hamas retain control in the Strip, but they'd gain control of the West Bank from Fatah.
  
  Have you thought about why that might have happened?
  Could it have something to do with Israel funding and propping them up?
  Is it related to the fact that the only Palestinian territory not being actively colonized is the one with the most Hamas presence?
  When a child’s family is blown up by a missile, do you think it might give them a grudge against the group that launched them?
  When Israel agrees to lift a blockade and doesn’t, even after a year of Hamas abiding the ceasefire, could that imply the Israeli government isn’t negotiating in good faith?
  You can’t comprehensively talk about the “popularity” of an extremist group without analyzing the circumstances that gave rise to them. When we discuss the Nazi regime it’s very often brought up how the economic instability inflicted by WWI made the German people more receptive to Hitlers messaging.
  Desperation breeds extremism so continuing to inflict desperate conditions is ensuring conflict will survive. Israel needs to pull out of the West Bank and allow Gaza control of their own utilities and trade.
  
  Could it have something to do with Israel funding and propping them up?
  Maybe, but Israel providing funds to the West Bank and Gaza is something that has been demanded by the international community for decades.
  Israel needs to pull out of the West Bank and allow Gaza control of their own utilities and trade.
  Gaza has control of it's utilities and trade. Israel only has control in the reality that they provide heavily discounted utilities to the strip as a form of aid. Gaza has received and continues to receive billions of dollars so that it can control it's own utilities and trade but; it chooses to spend that money on war fighting instead of self control and self reliance.
  So if pulling out of Gaza in 2004 didn't lead to peace and self reliance by the strip and instead has led to a decay in Gaza's economic well being; why would they subject the much larger West Bank to the same problem?
  
  You can tell someone is peddling hamas agenda by how they keep making excuses for them.
  
  Poiniting out inaccurate statements are not peddling an agenda, dumbass. Stawman like yours, however, are.
  
  The current governing party of Palestine in the West Bank is Fatah, but this story did not happen there
  Stop beating around the bush. The guy above him said "country". West bank and Gaza are not countries.
  
  As I understand it Fatah is the governing party in the West Bank. Hamas is the governing party in Gaza
  
  So dumb how the west bank is east of gaza.
  
  It's to the West of the River Jordan
  
  Yeah, it's still confusing.
  
  That's not the case on the ground in the Gaza Strip and hasn't been for over a decade now.

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