California officer shoots and kills boy, 15, holding gardening tool
Civil rights advocates call for release of police bodycam video after Ryan Gainer killed on Saturday by deputy responding to 911 call
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The bodycam footage has been released and the shooting was clearly justified.
'clearly justified' for shooting and killing a child point blank for threatening violence with a garden hoe? That officer reacted as if he was being hunted by a monster. You people need to learn some fucking empathy and common sense.
Yeah. It sucks, but what did the family expect? They couldn't control him and as soon as the police arrived he charged them with a weapon. Shit situation, but an entirely justified shooting.
As if a grown ass officer couldn't take down a teen wielding some gardening equipment without a lethal weapon.
In some cases they can, but here the officer was charged and the attacker was able to get very close, another second and the officer could have been hit and then who knows what would happen. The footage shows a very clear threat.
Yeah you're out of your depth kid. That's why you and that cop should never be cops.
So what you are saying is when his parents called the cops, they should have expected their child to be killed in front of them?
If they call the cops on an unstable person attacking them with a weapon, he might attack the cops who show up as well.
lick that hoof harder, I'm sure it'll save you if they break into your house serving a warrant to the wrong address and shoot your wife.
Lick that pig hoof son, I'm sure it'll make them your friends.
The kid was autistic. It was not justified.
Since autism isn't an easily visible disability, almost no one will have sympathy. It's a sad truth.
I'm autistic, does that automatically make me an incompetent who can act with impunity because I can be impulsive? This logic only hurts the people you're pretending to help. Law doesn't care about intent except for sentencing.
Inside his house, you'd be right and the cop ran away. After he's outside, he sees it's a cop, and charges him in anger with a big pointy metal thing. Do you expect the cop to divine someone's psychological diagnosis? What if it's a brain tumor that makes him actively murderous? Is everyone in the walking dead committing murder by killing the poor zombies who cannot help themselves?
You're going down a slippery slope there my guy. I'm just saying mental health should always be a consideration. Dude was walking towards the cop at a speed where the cop could have just kicked him down. Or even if he had to use the gun, just immobilize the kid by shooting his legs, not murder them.
"should always be a consideration" is a platudinous way of avoiding the rest of what you said.
Nobody, literally nobody, teaches tactics you describe. That's 100% Hollywood where only the writer gets to kill the hero. It's not like moving your mouse and clicking or pressing E to melee. With adrenaline and under time pressure, you do not have the kind of fine motor coordination necessary - there have been cases of master-class competitive shooters taking an opportunity to take a shot like that because they're basically John Wick and the technique is muscle memory, but law enforcement is militarized enough as it is, we don't need police qualification to be a USPSA "A" classification.
Slippery slope again.
I work with the autistic population. There are ways we can train police officers to be better, not even against autistic folks but the entire population as a whole. The issue here are the cops and how they're trained. Not the mentally ill person.
Yes, if a mentally ill person is murders, we should charge them for murder. But they have the option to plead mental illness and be sent somewhere else. You can't have those options if you're shot dead.
How nice, you're highly functioning. Or a lair.
And if you ARE autistic, which I doubt by your post, you would understand that being impulsive isn't a choice especially for people on the deeper end of the spectrum. Add being a teenager on top of this and the cop is clearly in the wrong for escalating an already tense situations.
Because that's what cops always do, always escalate, always move towards violence.
I'm on the spectrum aswell but I'm under no illusion that it's going to protect me from violence if I go around physically attacking other people.
It was and will be ruled so when the investigation is complete. No one wants to see a 15 year old die, but it was clearly justified.
Says the person who would have shot grandma for holding on to garden shears as she walks towards you slowly.
That's a different scenario. If someone is slowly advancing, non lethal tools can be used. When someone is charging full speed, they can't.