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There's an uphill battle here

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Honestly people who make memes about either political side are stupid. Personally the left and right label is out-datedIMO and just hurting further evolution of society. Almost like they want us fighting over stupid memes instead of actually facing the real problem.
- Oh, look... a centrist.
  Yawn.
  
  Lol thats an even worse label IMO. I have extreme ideas lol but I'm not with this whole left vs right ideaology it doesnt help fuck all
  
  I’m not with this whole left vs right ideaology
  said like everyone who has strong views but no real understanding
  
  Lol I understand it perfectly its just dumb and needs to change. I will participate in the system but I strongly disagree with everything and will continue to voice my anger and disagreement with the fucking world. I vote, I strike, I volunteer, I go to city planning meetings for god sake. I know what im talking about, I'm trying to make a change dude.
  This constant squabbling over things that really dont matter in the end is fucking insane. We all see the politicians promise the world and deliver nothing yet we continue to play the game. The amount of times they have proved corruption is part and parcel of the system should be enough to tell you what they really want. I am just trying to point out there is another way. We dont have to play the game they dictate.
  What is ignorant and sadly very human is assuming this is it.
  
  Don't worry about convincing them. Use their assumptions and knee-jerk left/right/whatever reactions to reign them in and point them somewhere useful.
  If they fight you, they'll have to get to know themselves to fight back effectively.
  
  I strike
  Where do you strike that is ambivalent to the left/right divide.
  
  With the indigenous people of my country we dont see the government as end all like you
  
  then you do not understand what a government is, what is does, nor the power it holds
  
  Yeah I do doesnt make it right
  
  no you don't, because any form of society begets a government once you need to make rules, and i assure you, that every single group of people above like 50 had some form of government going on, because even without government, you just get the warlord government of who is strongest
  
  Dude I'm not saying having a governing body of some sort is stupid I'm saying our current system is and of course people above 50 had a government wtf are you talking about. Also those 50 year olds were OK with murdering 1000s maybe 10000s of native children and then sweep them under a school thats the government I'm fighting
  
  No Winston you have to pick a side. Haven't you heard?
- What is the real problem? Lizard-people?
  
  Lol fuck I wish naw it's more complicated its us we are the fucking problem dude. More specifically politics in general is broken and doesnt work anymore maybe it used to but hasn't lately and getting worse
  Edit: for the record I do believe in all that crazy alien shit but I dont blame any of humanity's failings on anyone but ourselves and as well with our ahievements are all our own. we are the masters of our own destiny no matter what the fuck is out there
  
  What do you think politics should be?
  
  To be honest im not sure exactly More transparent to start, maybe restraints on corporate lobbying, more involvement with the people like public volunteer panels to discuss policies and other stuff. Thats just off the top of my head but I sure there are thousands of ways we could improve the system but we should at least try something else because I think we can all agree its shit
  
  Lol that's literally left wing policies you nonce
  
  I can agree with left policies but also hate the left dude its not black and white and also governments are bs
  
  Those sound like left policies tbh! The right does NOT want restraints on corporate lobbying nor do they want more democracy. I think these are good ideas but I also think maybe you are way too hopeful about how open the political right is to these seemingly basic democratic measures.
  The left/right seem basically the same if you just look at Dems/Republicans because they basically are the same, but true left politics aligns a lot more with what you're saying than you may realize.
  
  Just because my ideas align with "left politics" doesnt mean I believe in the system sure some have good ideas but usually it involves capitalism and that shit is a sickness. I also believe nationalism and patriotism have become a sickness. Once were useful but weve outgrown that. I want a better world for everyone even the fucking assholes that dont want a better world (capitalists you have to hurt people to get more) maybe we need to stop being so inclusive and cull some assholes no trials. Personally I want some variant of socialism.
  But I'm not Naive and know things happen slowly and in steps so I will work with what I have to strive for what I want. In the end humanity is so immature as a species we really need to grow more consciencely to grown as a society IMO
  
  Leftists are anti-capitalist. Leftists are also socialist.
  
  I mean i dont see it who would fund them? maybe a long time ago but thats not true anymore. all politicians are bad the system has been corrupted for longer then you and me its all words and semantics they use to distract us now
  
  Fund what? Distract from what? Words help people find other people who share their beliefs and organize politically.
  
  Their salaries you think politicians would make this much in socialist world? you think money would even be relevent ? How do you think these politicians will take hearing they have to eat shit like the rest of us to fix this world? you think that'll happen? i dont Agreed on words matterin but so do actions and lately we've let those in control do all the actions. When I say a better world I mean everywhere not just america every human deserves to live and this world the way the system is does not allow that
  
  Just because my ideas align with "left politics" doesnt mean I believe in the system
  I want a better world for everyone even the fucking assholes that dont want a better world
  Personally I want some variant of socialism.
  dude read a single thing about what leftism and socialism even are, I beg you
  
  Dude trust me I understand your confusion. but again my whole original point from the first one was the memes are stupid because I dont think labelling our ideas is doing us any good. if I could explain my point, without using these words that are mainly semantics at this point. I would, but then I wouldn't get my point across.
  What I'm trying to say we need something new. In my opinion left right socialist fascist communist capitalist whatever you want its all a spectacle this system is the problem and we need to break free but will be slow and I guess I just rant on Lemmy because I have to take it slow in real life You guys are like my teachers helping me shape my future arguments.
- Change "left" and "right" to "altruism" and "egoism" and you'll understand a little better both sides.
  
  I do agree with you but I can't do that with the people here or I'll get even more down voted lol
  Thank you ❤️

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