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Trump blows off honoring dead soldiers to attend golf tournament.

www.dailykos.com Trump blows off honoring dead soldiers to attend golf tournament

President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida. Staff Sgt. Jose Duenez Jr.,...

President Donald Trump isn’t attending the dignified transfer of four American soldiers who died in Lithuania, because he has instead chosen to attend a Saudi-backed golf tournament at his country club in Doral, Florida.

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Trump blows off honoring dead terrorists to play golf? Unintentionally based.
Who are these articles for? This is Lemmy. Do we really have boomers here upset about him disrespecting "the troops"? Fuck the troops.
Edit: I guess the US "respect our terrorist troops" propaganda goes deep.
- You and I don't need to. The person ordering those troops to their death 100% does need to show respect.
  
  Yeah let's criticize the aesthetics of Imperialism instead. Like, what?
  So it would be ok to kill poor brown people as long as the dude doing it is respectful to the poverty draft terrorist that cary out the terrorism?
  Sure dude. That problem is him going golfing and being disrespectful.
  
  No one is talking about imperialism we're talking about basic human decency I have to assume you lack given this conversation.
  
  Yeah you can't mention US troops dying in a country we have no business being in and ignore Imperialism. That's my entire point dude.
  
  No one is ignoring it. We're saying it's not more important at the moment the recognizing the death of the people you order. That's basic decency and their goddamn obligation as commander and chief. You seem to be the only one who is saying a belated conversation about imperialism is more important.
  That's shitty behavior so I'm simply going to assume you're a shitty self absorbed person.
  
  You're being pretty harsh on that guy. Had you considered that America bad? Every soldier was literally Hitler because they were a member of America's military and America bad. Checkmate.
  
  These fuckin morons man, protest the war not the warrior. They're usually kids who joined for money not to be idealogs for bafoons to push their narrative.
  
  Honestly, even when they were ideologues, they're 17 or 18 years old and have been fed Americana mythology their entire lives. Many of them didn't realize it was all bullshit until later. But they do usually realize it.
  
  This isn't Vietnam. No one was forced into being a mass murderer for American Imperialism. And even then you could be like Muhammad Ali and tell the government to go fuck themselves.
  Drive Uber, be a prostitute, join a gang. Literally anything is more honorable than being a part of the worlds largest terrorist organization. And until people start treating it like that people will still continue to join because it's "honorable". Stop honoring it. Because it's significantly more honorable to be a sex worker (or nearly anything else) than it is to join the military. But for some reason our society has a problem with one and not the other.
  You can feel sad for the soldiers tricked into dying to fight wars for rich people. But to act like that's "honorable" is a fucking joke.
  
  They were in Lithuania training none so far as I'm aware are war criminals so far as I'm aware so you're simply assuming everyone in a uniform is a straight up murderer and deserves to die. You lack awareness, nuance and basic compassion, showing the deaf respect isn't for the dead it's for me and you to say what kind of person we are. You apparently are just an absolutely shitty human being.
  Drive Uber, be a prostitute, join a gang.
  Amazingly stupid.
  Ps no one asked you to act like it's honorable at all, we're saying the president who leads the country you loathe so much needs to show the dead of their making respect.
  You're so goddamn ego driven you can't figure out literally none of this is about you and your amazingly selfish self.
  
  There is no nuance for being a part of a terrorist organization like the US military.
  I doubt you would have the same reasoning if it was an "innocent" member of ISIS. You just like to pretend there is nuance when there is not.
  No one would exclude a "desk job" at ISIS. These people enable the structures of terrorism whether they are participating in violent acts directly or not.
  Same goes for the desk jobs of the US military. There is no nuance in joining an organization who's entire purpose is to terrorize the third world.
  I think you're confusing having consistent moral compass with somehow being "selfish"? Because I've literally said nothing about myself. Sounds like you're projecting.
  
  Not every Nazi was Hitler. But being upset that Hitler didn't respect his troops is fucking stupid. If thats even on your list of criticisms for Hitler than I think something is wrong with your perspective. And if you did you would be saying that Nazis deserve respect. They don't. And neither do American troops.
  The only ones that deserve respect are the ones that desert and fight against the harms that they did.
  
  Top notch comprehension. Nailed it.
  
  I just have an actual moral compass instead of trying to find nuance for celebrating war criminals.
  
  These particular people weren't war criminals, you're the one missing nuance to cram your narrative into inappropriate situations.
  Your mother may be a whore but I'm still the asshole if I scream it at her corpse during her funeral.
  
  I'm fresh out of gold stars.
  
  No. I just give zero shits about the aesthetics of "military honor" in the US.
  And any topic related to respecting the US military cannot be disconnected from the fact that it's the largest terrorist organization in the world.
  It's like saying "oh damn, Putin wasn't respectful to his dead troops". Like, ok, I don't give a shit about Putin or the troops that kill innocent people.
  
  It's not aesthetics, people died slow some respect when you're the one who ordered it. No one is asking you to have common decency, clearly you don't so I won't ask.
  That's literally every military, but again you're ignoring the humans that died who didn't harm anyone and were involved in humanitarian efforts, let me say that again training efforts with an allied country not war. Stop being so much of a bigot you can't see the tree amongst the forest.
  No one is asking for you to care about Putin, you're being obtuse. It's especially dumb with Russia because they're conscripts in a oligopoly who imprisons deserters and allegedly kills some.
  
  Yeah. The leader of a military that terrorizes the third world SHOULD honor his troops. At least in terms of his own self interest. But that's clearly not what I'm talking about.
  I'm talking about why YOU or I should care about it?
  If anything it's good that he doesn't. Being in the US military is NOT honorable. And any movement in our culture and society to realize this is good.
  You can be sad for the people that died being a part of the worlds largest terrorist organization. Sad they were fooled into it.
  But if you keep honoring it. More people will join and die needlessly.
  There is literally more honor in being an Uber Driver or a Sex Worker than there is in being in the US military. And maybe some of these kids that died needlessly would be doing food delivery or dancing on only fans if people like you and people in this thread started treating joining the military as what it is. One of the most disgusting and dishonorable things you can do.
  So, feel pity for the kids that died. But if you want less of them to die do not honor them. There is no honor to be placed in dying for American empire.
  
  We all know what you're talking about, it's you who is confused about what we all are talking about.
  The leader of a military that terrorizes the third world SHOULD honor his troops.
  If anything it's good that he doesn't.
  Logic much?
  There is no honor to be placed in dying for American empire.
  For the third time NO ONE IS ASKING YOU NOR I TO HONOR A GODDAMN THING. Do you need it in German, Korean? Screamed at you while being beaten aggressively with a spoon? What? English by itself clearly isn't working so what exactly do you think might?
  
  The leader of a military that terrorizes the third world SHOULD honor his troops. At least in terms of his own self interest
  You're gonna quote me and purposely remove the one sentence in the middle that is important to the context? Like, did you do that in your head and not even notice it? Or do you do it purposely to avoid the point being made?
  I really hope it's the former. I'd much rather hope that you're just arguing in bad faith rather than being that dumb.
  At this point it's obvious that you're trying to "debate lord" more than you are trying to understand what I'm saying. So I don't really have much interest in continuing this conversation.
  
  We literally want them to be here you ignorant dictator-worshipper
  
  I’m just replying in case you need another comment to rant at.
  
  Appreciate it
  
  Yes, the poor brown people of... Lithuania?
  Sure. Its not like Lithuania asked for NATO Troops because they really dont want to go back to being an Oblast, it must be an imperialist ploy.
  
  Did you read the article? These dumb ass joes died in a training exercise by getting their vehicle stuck in the mud.
  What do you think NATO troops do? They bomb brown people in Western Asia.
  I swear to God you idiots are so excited to come up with the most idiotic "gotchas" that you don't even think about what is actually being talked about.
  No one said they were actively bombing brown people. They were so stupid they died training to bomb brown people.
  
  These dumb ass joes died in a training exercise by getting their vehicle stuck in the mud.
  I swear to God you idiots are so excited to come up with the most idiotic "gotchas" that you don't even think about what is actually being talked about.
  Says the person who is so giddy people they do not know died they're willing to pass judgement on the dead they've never met. You're a piece of shit.
  
  They were on a training mission in Lithuania, to simulate fighting conditions in a country like Lithuania. Wtf are you even on about?
  How the fuck is that training to bomb brown people?
  
  Holy fuck you people are dense. Yeah dude. They were training to "protect us from terrorist and Russians" just like in the movies. That's exactly how the world works.
  Remind me again what country we just recently bombed? Oh yeah, one of the poorest countries on the planet that spent the last decade being genocided by the US and it's allies. The only country in the world performing any military action to resist the genocide in Gaza.
  But yeah. The US military "fights bad guys". I'm sure. Keep believing your delusions.
- Don't cut yourself on all that edge.
- "respect our terrorist troop"
  They were here to defend us from literal fascists in Russia. You know, those that commit literal warcrimes and crimes against humanity. You know, those that commit a literal genocide.
  They are absolute heroes and deserve the greatest honour.
  Fuck the troops? If anyone should be fucked, it needs to be you, "LeninOnAPrayer". You have absolute double standards to talk about terrorism when you literally named yourself after a brutal dictator that overthrew the mensheviki democratic government to implement a rule of terror.
  
  God damn. It's like I'm back on reddit with how incredibly stupid some of you are.
  Go suck a troops dick.
- What I can't believe is how easily the US military is giving up on this conflict. Letting the swamp win is disrespectful to the fallen. We need to send another truckload of troops into the swamp, and if they sink into it too, send another, and another, until eventually they can drive a truck in without it sinking. We can't let the cost of these sunken troops go to waste.
  Anyone who says we shouldn't do this is secretly a pro-swamp infiltrator or an accelerationist who hates America because they just want to watch the world burn.
  
  Exactly! I was wrong. I see the light! All of these comments replying to me and yours turned me into a patriot! We must keep throwing bodies at the problem! It would dishonorable to the fallen not to do so!
- Have you ever considered that running on a platform of "America sucks" is unlikely to get you elected in America?
  
  I mean he was elected. Twice. He made MAGA. If you want to make it great again, it has to be shit now, by definition. So.... no.

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