Learning Curve - Litterbox Comics
Learning Curve - Litterbox Comics


Learning Curve - Litterbox Comics
Thank you, @otter@lemmy.ca, for showing a perfect example of what a post should look like.
I award you with the highest medal I can bestow:
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you don't check your brain's file system regularly?
File system check!
Thank you so much for this medal, I will cherish it 😁
Not sure if you have seen this person religiously commenting better quality versions of comics and pictures on other people's posts, this is extremely high praise!
You've gained a medal from a Lemmy staple
Just 3 beans come on man, spill them, least we can take is 5
My brother had a kid and I always feel like some out of touch old man when we talk about it. Once he told me todlers can only have distilled water and I had to stop myself from going "Back in my day, my parents gave me tap water and I turned out fine!"
I thought distilled water was bad for humans to consume as it leeches nutrients from you?
That'd be deionized water, I think...
Tap water doesn't exactly have loads of electrolytes. I think though the normal advice is to give small children boiled water to protect them from water borne illnesses
It's probably more important in places with less safe water
I thought that it was deionized water, not distilled water that strips your body from minerals
What. That can't be true. Maybe there's some advantage, like less fluoride etc. But it's not true they can't drink rap water...
Maybe they live in Flint Michigan 🤷♂️
Babies, babies can't have tap water.
~6 months you start with cooled boiled water.
~12 months you can move onto tap water.
That also depends on where you live and on the quality of the tap water. Doctor here now recommend you to use tap water also for formula - without boiling it first.
wait, how did babies back in the day (~1000s years ago) survive?
Across Europe there's different recommendations in every country, and no evidence of different illness/mortality rates related to the recommendation.
France says tap water is safe for all ages.
If you're in the US, I totally get why you might want to keep boiling your water, but remember that boiling doesn't remove lead.
Make baby drink boiling water so they're cool. Got it.
todlers can only have distilled water
I’m pretty sure that’s unhealthy (lack of minerals)
If you only have them distilled water and not the formula you mix into it, then it's dangerous, but the minerals aren't the problem there.
you don't get your minerals from water, you get them from what you eat.
You can drink distilled water if you compensate for the possible demineralization.
If you think that by drinking distilled water, you're missing out on all the forever chemicals and pesticides; you can still go lick a car tire and be done with it.
Where would that be? Africa?
That's only if you haven't blessed the rains down in Africa.
They will never suspect
So why are mothers expected to just figure things out on their own? We humans have women living way past fertile age because they were important for children, and suddenly we decided we don't need grandma's help passing along generational knowledge and helping first time mothers. Grandma/Grandpa are supposed to be free and focus on helping the parents so they learn and don't make mistakes because they don't know anything.
And community too. It's so isolated. Makes me sad, and afraid to have children.
Let's be real, the whole "only mom and dad are supposed to FAFO on their own" is an extremely stupid societal expectation. Humans were never meant to live as isolated animals, always in groups
I know right. I don't see why countries promote this kinda individualism and expect people to have children.
Some things you really do just have to learn by experience, but there is no reason to withhold knowledge that can help someone be better or do something easier.
YouTube has converted "sharing knowledge" to "monetization", so no one helps unless they're getting something back for it.
This is super tangential, but I knew someone who had a miscarriage which caused a mental health crisis. Or perhaps more accurately, the crisis was caused by severe isolation and implicit stigma around her grief. She told me that after the crisis, she was surrounded by people who had experienced miscarriages too. She was baffled because this sure would have been helpful before the mental breakdown.
People are expected to be so strong that ultimately it just weakens us at the community and the individual level
When you’re planning on having kids, or pregnant, your health care providers will recommend you take some parenting classes. There’s ways to learn, don’t let your parents not being there for you stop you. You will also likely get recommended to get a doula and midwife.
It's not the same. For starters, none of it is free. Like every other aspect of capitalism, it disproportionately affects the poor. Also, I don't know about you, but I would never be able to trust a stranger as much as my own family. And the family is also missing out. It's so rewarding to raise a baby. I was involved in raising many of my nieces and nephews, and it was so great. Just interacting with kids is a beautiful thing, and a wonderful stress reliever. (I know not everyone likes babies, but many do.) I know that there's some real threat of perverts, but the fact that babies are pretty much isolated from the society is not great for their growth.
Classes might help. But the important part is someone with experience doing it for you until you get a hang of it. Someone giving you lession on what to do might give you knowledge but it takes practice, reminders etc. I know you said both is good. I agree with that as things change, some practice in the past might not be good now, but that might also come from every generation resetting the knowledge, if you have generational knowledge passed, and collected and refined with community and science, then the things that work well will stick out longer.
Also, no paternity leave in many places, and short maternity leave (looking at US with zero federally required maternity leave), means people take those for recovery and do not have as much free time before they have the baby.
In the Netherlands, "kraamverzorgenden" come by the house of new parents every day for ~the first week to show you the ropes, and just in general to help with chores and/or entertaining brothers and/or sisters.
kraamverzorgenden
That sounds like something that would go to the house of new parents and steel their kid
Same in Slovenia. I assume it's the same in all of EU.
What does "kraamverzorgenden" mean? In my country that's always a woman and is called "grandma" but in a diminutive or loving style or a pet name for grandma. Basically "gammy" or something to that effect.
In my experience, it's not so much everyone needs to figure it out for themselves. It is filtering through invalid opinions and non-applicable information.
It's the same reason it is so hard being a doctor, "Oh, your baby is crying? Here's a few thousand things it could be, and tomorrow, it will probably be a different reason."
As much as I love my independence, I can't help but look at society and think that things have gone very wrong at some point.
Yeah. Independence is nice and all, specially because of current advances in technology that makes it possible. But the same technology have made it possible to goto the extreme that we were not prepared for.
Unless they've been using the same sippy cups for decades, I don't think grandma would've helped with this.
While I don't disagree, (personally, I'm not about it but people should be able to plug in to a local community for common advice of mundane things) parents also just...learned things themselves. And sometimes it wasn't correct. I've spoken to my sister-in-law who told me about all the unsolicited advice she's gotten about motherhood. And how much of it was basically superstition, not medical advice.
My wife's parents died 5 years ago in the same year when our first child was 3. I'm not sure how to describe my parents. I have nothing against them. We get along great. They do help, but they are not actively there much, either if that makes sense. Talk on the phone and see each other once a month for family dinner. They will help in an instant if I call them (definitely have a few times) and will watch our children when we need to do something. After that? That's about it. They were mostly hands off with me as well, and so it's just who they were. I enjoyed it and loved the freedom. I don't disagree with the logic either. They did their time and just retired. They spent there life mostly taking care of me, so they deserve some much needed freedom as well to do all the things they never could partially because of me. Some may say it's not enough, but I don't feel that way, and I also hope to enjoy my later years just like them. You give up a lot having kids, you also have a life to live as well at some point.
Clean your ice machine unless you like to consume mold
What if I don't consume ice?
Clean your mold machine then
Then you'll have to source your mold elsewhere. Bleu cheese is an option.
Same thing applies to coffee maker / espresso machine tanks. I found a nasty surprise in mine recently...
All I've learned from this tread is that people have some very strange beliefs...
Maybe talk to your DR instead of trusting what people say online.
But I listened to 90 seconds of a podcast from my favorite fitness influencer, so basically I have an MD now, right?
I read the cat mommy's voice in Princess Caroline's voice.
A side-effect of capitalism is the destruction of community. Back in the day when nuclear families weren't the only kind of family possible, first-time parents leart all of this from their in-laws. But now they need to take parenting classes.
I'm from semi-rural India, and it worked that way when I was a kid, but things are starting to change there as well.
first-time parents leart all of this from their in-laws.
And so much of that was dangerous bullshit, it's unbelievable. So many children died because of that.
That's due to the lack of medical knowledge. Even doctors used to recommend dangerous shit back in the day. (Heck, they used to think that babies don't feel much pain as recently as the 1980s. Archive link.) So, it's not really an argument against communal knowledge. Also, I'm not arguing against medical help. Everyone should always seek medical help when having kids, but the communal knowledge is necessary as well.
I once discovered that my moka pot had an industrial grease stuck to it in an area that is almost impossible to clean. I used it so many times before finding that out...
As a childless person... I don't get it.
Is it like a rubber seal that keeps they lid on like in some other things meant to hold liquid or is it some other sippy cup related contraption
There's a rubber seal inside the lid that stops them leaking. The milk etc can get behind it, where normal washing won't get. It can get funky if you don't clean it out.
Parenting mostly isn't that hard. You just have to keep all the proverbial plates spinning. Unfortunately there are FAR more than you expect, and you never get a break. You will miss some, then beat yourself up for missing something so simple.
I see, thanks for the clarification!
Have you ever used a water bottle? They have a rubber seal in the lid that needs to be removed for cleaning. Same concept with sippy cups.
Ah yes the famous learning curve of having to READ the INSTRUCTION BOOKLET of the things you buy
Land sakes ahead, HOW WILL WE MANAGE TO COPE WITH IT ALL
The worst this is that it's not even a READING thing.
Its a CARING thing.
God-damn, it's your fucking baby. You wanted it? you should have turned since conception into a linear algebra organic machine, devoted solely to calculating solutions for MIGHT DIE scenarios for your baby, applying n dimensional matrices to explore possibility space
Within the first few years, you should have been able to calculate most obvious scenarios (choking hazards, sand pits, piranhas, etc)
That frees up time to calculate the utmost edge cases ( wormhole traveling, memetic incursions, local brane collapse, and so on)
If you are smart about it, you can find an optimal stock selection strategy algorithm within P-Space
You should print the output in binary tho
You have no kids and probably a man because I bought many sippy cups for my boys and they don't come with instruction booklets. Most havs if you lucky a tag with no instructions on cleaning them. So shut the fuck up. Besides its a comic and funny and those of us with kids can relate.
Dude it's a silly little comic featuring animal cartoon characters, it does not justify this level of rage.
But snakes can't wear necklaces, people are such idiots!