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Highest theoretical score for the first hand of a run?

Given optimal conditions, such as precise skip bonuses with favorable outcomes and the most favorable dealt hand, what is the highest score that the very first hand of a run can achieve?

Is there any record of a highest score achieved with the first hand?

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  • I think there's no true limit because you could theoretically get an infinite chain of emperor tarots through your first 2 skips. The only true limiting factor is you couldn't have more than 3 legendary cards, but most of the legendaries need to build up anyways before they're useful.

  • Probably.... :

    Boss is the manacle or The Pillar
    Skip tag, Arcana tag, gives 4 tarot packs giving 2 choices each one.

    1 soul : Triboulet
    3 judgement : blueprint, brainstorm , Sock and buskin

    First hand : King, King, King, Queen , Queen.

    (40 + 100) x (4 * 210)

    140 * 4 * 1024

    573,440

    Now let me see if I'm right... oh wait, I forgot the trib and sock being doubled....

    (40 + 200) * (4 * 230)

    1,030,792,151,040

    https://efhiii.github.io/balatro-calculator/?h=IACMGABIdwoAC2g9AaDUAoA

    🤔 not sure where I went wrong with that calc

    816,043,786,240 actual total

    EDIT : ah, it's 40+150, not 40+ 200 .

    EDIT2 : maybe you can fuck with the emperor to get more score, but I CBA to do the tradeoffs/state calcs for cheesing to get more triggers using the fool getting chad or two planet cards.

    • I don't know the intricate math off the top of my head because I've never actually manually calculated a hand before... but if you rolled an erratic deck to get 7 kings in hand plus an ace and pulled blueprint brainstorm baron mime off 4 judgements... I feel like that might be something.

      And yeah if you consider improbable emperor chains you could add a troubador off another judgement for 2 more kings.

      Balatro calculator says 51,647,341,517, which isn't as high as I thought.

      • fuck it, unproven time.

        I bet you can get naninf with perfect luck and emperor abuse. We are using Magic deck (1 additional consumable slot)

        Every emperor gives us at least the fool.
        Every time we get a joker off judgement it's negative.
        First tarot card is judgement, giving us showman.

        Emperor : fool + judgement. Play fool, get Emperor
        Play judgement, get blueprint. Play emperor, get fool + judgement. I have demonstrated a loop for infinite blueprints.

        There are two tarot cards to choose from left.

        Choose the soul, get Tribulet.

        Get Sock & buskin, mime and baron
        get infinite handsize with infinite juggler

        Stop generating judgement, start generating infinite high priestess Every high priestess gives pluto + earth

        Get infinite level high card and full house.

        Waste the last tarot cards

        Go into the boss and play high card OR full house

        Win due to infinite baron/mime triggers or Tribulet triggers.

        EDIT : Follow up questions:

        1. What are the odds of this happenning , at any level of efficiency?
        2. How long will it take to score?
        3. When will your computer melt?
  • OP, the highest possible score for first hand is NanEinf

  • Highest from the very first blind A royal flush - 1208 points

    Highest possible for one hand Probably Naneinf

    The actual value of the highest possible would probably involve a few near integer overflows: an infinite canio, infinite negative mult jokers, infinite hand size (For baron), infinite scaled base chips (with that hiker joker), infinite hand level, etc.

  • My first guess was to play a random deck with mostly hearts, use one skip to get a Heartstone, and another skip to get a Daredevil or a retrigger joker. But skips that give you booster packs right away don't appear in ante 1, except for the Mega Arcana one, so my idea would have to lean on that.

    Take a Judgement to get a Heartstone, take an Emperor to get a second Judgement and a Fool. Use the Fool to get a new Emperor and use the Judgement to get another good joker, and so on. The probability of all of this going just right is silly.

    But this is all just Christmas thinking. The more practical question is what actual seed and deck can give the best score in the first hand, not what is the first hand high score for any artificially constructed setup.

    • The more practical question is what actual seed and deck can give the best score in the first hand, not what is the first hand high score for any artificially constructed setup.

      I’m particularly curious about the answer to this, but I haven’t seen prior discussion or tracking of it anywhere

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