2d ago

Trump says Ukraine needs to make a deal after summit with Putin ends without ceasefire

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U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday Ukraine should agree a deal to end the war with Russia because "Russia is a very big power, and they're not"

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2d ago

Trump says Ukraine needs to make a deal after summit with Putin ends without ceasefire

www.reuters.com /world/europe/trump-says-ukraine-gotta-make-deal-after-summit-with-putin-yields-no-ceasefire-2025-08-16/

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I feel like Ukraine has already made a perfectly reasonable offer. "GTFO of our country and then we'll stop exploding your stuff." Russia needs to take that deal.
- This sounds cool and morally right but it is not grounded in reality.
  Ukraine needs a ceasefire much much more than Russia. Also, Russia has won a lot of land and technically they have won (at a big cost). Ukraine is in no position to make demands.
  
  Ukraine is in every position to make demands. What the fuck are you on about?
  
  Russia has ~~won~~ stolen a lot of land and technically they have ~~won~~ stolen (at a big cost).
  It matters fuck all what it cost them to steal land.
  "Oh, it cost me a lot of money for all the equipment I needed to 'win' the money from your bank vault, so you should just let me keep what I 'won '" 🙄
  
  Old good Putin's shill in action again I see.
What a useless “peacemaker” Trump is.
- He can't make peace with his own wife, what makes people think he can make peace on the world stage?
- Piece-maker
- He made peace, not for Ukraine or Russia but for business. A major chunk of the meeting was devoted to business talks.
Perfect answer would be:
USA is a very big power, and Vietnam is not.
- Every time I try pho bo I have doubts that anything is a big power compared to Vietnam.
  Like - there are people who like Kipling's thing about that "white man's burden", so - IMHO Vietnamese can take the "yellow man's burden" and civilize Europeans and Americans and all those. Teach them how you really keep your nation's dignity. Frenchies - check. Murrkans - check. Khmer Rouge - check. China - check.
Trump is a very big moron, and Zelensky is not.
Is this the summit where even Fox News admitted Putin "steamrolled" Trump?
Trump is such a moron, many countries have pledged continued support to Ukraine, and USA is less relevant to the war now than they ever were. USA is not even the main weapons supplier anymore, even with purchases of American weapons to Ukraine by NATO allies.
Trump has very little weight in these matters by his own design.
I am so happy that just this week, I found great alternatives to 2 American products an amplifier and new PSU for my computer. I would have bought if it wasn't because I have a near total boycott of American products and services. The only exception is if there 100% isn't any useful non US alternative, and it's something that is important to my quality of life.
The great dealmaker says someone else should make the deal....
"It was determined by all* that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a Peace Agreement…
*EXCEPT ONE OF THE PARTIES DIRECTLY INVOLVED
That’s kind of important, Donny.
Trump's getting crafty here. All these comparisons between him and Hitler, so he changes it up and plays Neville Chamberlain instead.
He’s torn down long standing relationships with his allies but everyone expects him to make a deal to stop the war between Russia and Ukraine!? Have we all lost our minds!? 🤯
- Nobody expects him to make a deal, but he loves being in the spotlight (when the topic isn’t Epstein-related).
  But yes, apparently we HAVE lost our minds, because nobody’s impeached him yet.

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