anarchy is when no government

Reddit is where nuance goes to die. If you can't defend a century old school of political philosophy and economics with one thought-terminating cliche then you're wrong because reasons and I win.

May I submit "there are people with guns who will tell you what to do, which is the same thing" as a proposal?
- I'd say that person is conflating authoritarian state "socialism" with anarchism. A popular anarchist movement isn't going to have a vanguard that makes decisions for the people under the guise of being an interim government (that just so happens to have all the guns and power) until the proles are really really super really ready to take over.

Oh but you see, the guy dropped a fallacy name so it's an automatic win for them.

I mentioned the fallacy fallacy to someone and they said it doesn't count, since assumptions aren't fallacies.
That's a fallacy fallacy!
If you want to live in a place which has x, why don't you just move to x? Is mindnumbing
Shit. Yeah. Fair's fair; I guess i need to be either a tankie or an ephebophile now.
Ugh. Not a great choice. I mean im leaning tankie. Could i just, like, be hypersexual and still keep liking older women, and just add an attraction to children, or does it need to be an exclusive thing? Because... Yeah.
Edit: shit. No i don't think i can. Peter thiel stepped in something. Just gotta be a tankie.

Here's a good primer for anyone wondering how it is a lot more nuanced than Anarchy = no government. https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-are-you-an-anarchist-the-answer-may-surprise-you

I appreciate the larger-context link, but it's not very convincing. It doesn't even convince itself in the end:
Now, you might object that all this is well and good as a way for small groups of people to get on with each other, but managing a city, or a country, is an entirely different matter. And of course there is something to this.
I've gotten the exact same lecture from Libertarians. "Life would be perfect if everything was run via free-market capitalism!" But I'm similarly unconvinced because there's noting to indicate that at the inter-state level it would be anything but fantasy.
Unless your pitch is that Anarchy just means, "love thy neighbor"? In which case, cool I'm on board. But I think it's confusing to use an existing word with a meaning to mean something totally different.
- But I think it's confusing to use an existing word with a meaning to mean something totally different.
  it doesn't mean something different. anarchy is from the greek words meaning the absence of a ruler.
  While the Greek words anarchos and anarchia are often taken to mean “having no government” or “being without a government,” as can be seen, the strict, original meaning of anarchism was not simply “no government.” “An-archy” means “without a ruler,” or more generally, “without authority,” and it is in this sense that anarchists have continually used the word. For example, we find Kropotkin arguing that anarchism “attacks not only capital, but also the main sources of the power of capitalism: law, authority, and the State.” [Op. Cit., p. 150] For anarchists, anarchy means “not necessarily absence of order, as is generally supposed, but an absence of rule.” [Benjamin Tucker, Instead of a Book, p. 13]
  But I'm similarly unconvinced because there's noting to indicate that at the inter-state level it would be anything but fantasy.
  who is it that you think should rule the entire world? who do you think should control all countries? do you believe one country should get to dictate the actions of all others, such as perhaps russia? maybe the united states? because if you believe there should not be a world authority that can act with impunity on the world stage, and decide what is genocide or what is acceptable levels of death or starvation, or who gets what resources in africa, then you're engaging in that fantasy with us, aren't you?
  https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/the-anarchist-faq-editorial-collective-an-anarchist-faq-full#text-amuse-label-seca11
- I’d rather just live in a small group and not the seething morass of stinking, screaming flesh that the human species has become.

I love how libs think

the liberal dictionary definition of “anarchy” will be equivalent to the political philosophy of anarchism.

It’s like being surprised when conservatives don’t support conservation.

I did pretty much that for 4 years. Great time, productive activism.

Anarchy is when you do this thing i think you should be doing?