Splitting Eastern Europe with the Nazis, and only joining the Allied side in '41!

I did not wake up to choose violence, I was born for it, and therefor I will now start crossposting this to the Tankie comms.

I find engaging with fascists tedious, but you do you, one supposes.
- There are a few I can't crosspost to, exact reasons vary, such as !memes@lemmy.ml others aren't showing up as successfully crossposted on Piefed.world yet but they do appear on lemmy.world very interesting.
Here is a prediction of your near future
Godspeed.
The lord’s work my friend.

Seeing all the removed comments makes me smile lol

Did you know, on lemmy.ml, if you disagree with them, they delete your comment?
- Damn right i do lol, be there been smacked. I'll fucking do it again too.

Just wait until you hear what Stalin did to his critics!

I could have made a grad account. I probably would have been happier on a grad account. Why did I ever delete my hexbear account?

sigh

Stay on ml.

I mean America isn't one person, so the meme still tracks. Whoever invented manifest destiny is definitely in the running though.
- I mean America isn’t one person, so the meme still tracks.
  "America allowed a controversial and counter-protested Nazi rally" doesn't really compare to "Stalin invaded a fourth of Europe in coalition with the Nazis"
  Whoever invented manifest destiny is definitely in the running though.
  I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that they could not have been Nazi collaborators, on account of the lack of Nazis at the time.
Oh look, „America first”-ers have arrived!
- Volunteering for bans. America has many sins, which are freely discussed and memed about on this comm, but anyone who comes in to play "WHATABOUTISM" apologia for Nazi collaborators is not welcome.

You forget that, contrary the the four-power pact or the German-French non-aggression pact, the Molotov-Ribbentrop treaty was a military alliance, in which both parties divided eastern Europe between themselves. There's a big difference between a non-agression pact and an alliance…

The crux of people thinking fascism can be defeated by violence think WWII was an example of this. Not only did this not stop fascism, it exploded it. Now almost the entire world is fascist and they still somehow think violence is the answer.

Can I ask then, if you know of a time fascism was definitely defeated? Because if it's not by violence, I do not know of a time fascism has been defeated.
- On a global scale, I think there's an argument to be made that the fight never ended at all.
  But, on a local scale, Chile comes to mind. Pinochet was ousted democratically and the military dictatorship ended. But that was only really because Pinochet was willing to relinquish control (due to external factors mostly, not just some change of heart) which isn't exactly common for fascist and authoritarian leaders, so Im not sure if that example applies much generally.
- Well, my belief is that it was never defeated and has become the dominant form of governance around the world.
  Long before fascism existed, during the American Revolution we see how the wealthy oligarchy manipulated peaceful colonist into a violent revolution. Shortly after this the first President was sworn in who was a military commander and also one of the more corrupt people in US history.
  We see the intersection of a controlled economy run by the wealthy for the wealthy combining with the military to create the first truly fascist nation. A nation that later went on to perpetrate a genocide.
  You have to be able to separate propaganda from reality and it is not easy especially for me as I was indoctrinated into the cult of the US.
  When you start seeing the government as an illusion to maintain control you begin to make sense of things like the US overthrowing countless democratic governments to install fascist leaders during the Cold war.