What is going on with people painting the red cross on the roundabouts to make the flag of england?
And why is this being related to rascism? It's not like people are burning the flag of other countries in videos.
I once tried to explain to an American about how English/British flags are seen over here, and they really couldn't understand what I was talking about.
There's nothing inherently racist about flying a flag and showing a bit of pride, but for as long as I've been alive, I only ever see racists flying flags (outside of World Cup/Coronation etc). After decades of racists flying flags, I can't help but think that you're a racist if you're flying an England flag. Everybody in England kinda knows this, and the ones who disagree are suspect. It's a shame I suppose. I think if we really wanted to reverse this, IMO, you'd have to do something like fly an England flag but also fly a pride flag on the same pole. It's definitely NOT going to be reversed by a guy who calls himself "Andy Saxon" who used to be part of the English Defence League. That's gonna make it worse.
As an American I can assure you that the vast majority of people flying American flags here are bigots. American leftists would easily understand your point about English/British flags.
Andy Saxon?
Bloody Normans coming over here, establishing our parliament and codifying the rule of common law that our modern judicial system is based upon!
#stopthelongships
You see flags everywhere in other countries when you travel. You see Indian flags, New Zealand flags, Canadian flags, Mexican flags, EU flags, Spanish flags, French flags, Croatian flags, South African flags, Irish flags, Scottish flags, Welsh flags. All showing pride in their country or themselves and nobody bats an eyelid.
Yet somehow the English and UK flag has to be put up by a racist. 🤷
I get that it has been unfortunately coopted by the far right and I'm not excusing that. But people also get gleeful when they have an opportunity, any opportunity, to brand someone a flag shagger or white van man. It's just where we are as a country right now.
On the internet, I agree with you, everybody jumps on one another at the slightest chance. It sucks. In the real world, people have a lot more nuance. I'm not gonna immediately throw a milkshake at somebody for having an England flag up, and most people probably wouldn't bat an eye.
I'm not gleeful about the flag thing at all. I like it when we win the Euros and I can fly a flag and be proud for a short while. I once went on holiday in Portugal during the World Cup and had little England flags on my car and a few people shouted "Inglaterra!" at us and it was great.
This rule absolutely works in Germany. In the US i would argue it also applies to an extent. Anywhere else it just means "nationalist" instead of "racist" which is only slightly better. States arent something to be proud of. Your state apparatus doesnt care about you and never will. Lots of people see their country's flag as a cultural symbol, but thats just misguided imo. Legally speaking the flag is a state symbol, not a cultural symbol. Flying a state flag means endorsing that state. This becomes apparent when a state turns bad like Israel. If you fly an Israeli flag people will assume that you endorse Israels genocide. Doesnt matter if there are a bunch of people living in Israel that dont endorse the genocide, the flag is the state and the state is the flag.
why is this being related to rascism?
Displaying a nation's flag is, by definition, a nationalist act. Nationalism and racism are very strongly related. A venn diagram of racists and nationalists is very nearly a circle.
Could they at least do this over the potholes.
Nah, they will just clean it with water
Because it's a certain type of person painting them.
Also, it's pretty disrespectful to the flag, it'll be driven, walked and cycled over.
It's also against the law to mess with road markings. Road markings need to look like they're supposed to look; how they look conveys their meaning. You can't just let anybody with a tin of Dulux and a Very Important Cause go around making up their own road markings.
Highways authorities are required by law to remove vandalism like this, and the groups responsible will inevitably use this as an excuse to cry about being censored.
It is. Painting it in the first place on the ground is the disrespect. After that it's nothing more than graffiti.
Is it the EDL doing it?
Meanwhile all the Brits hiding in mainland Europe: Speak English!
That's proportionally so wrong, it looks more like a St Patrick's Saltire (when viewed diagonally).
Racism masqueraded as patriotism and showing support for the Lionesses beating Spain in the football.
Same with the flags on lamposts, it's all really protesting about the migrant hotels.
If you watch it on the news, look at the protestors - it's always the mouth breathing morons who complain about immigration being too high and that they should be kicked out, but then they'll get taxis, takeaways, use the NHS etc and not even realise their own hypocrisy
I haven't seen much of this in my area but there is a footbridge over a dual carriageway which has the union jack hanging on it. I don't if whoever did it selected that flag on purpose or just did it slightly wrong.
Probably just a little bit less racist?
Flags on lampposts are normal in Northern Ireland.
Usually the ones I find complaining are about illegal immigrants. Not immigrants in general who abide by the law
This is a wild thing to say when I know you're aware of the recent pogrom that happened in Northern Ireland that was targeted at those perceived to be 'illegal immigrants'. Like, do you think these people aren't just tarring all immigrants they don't like as 'illegal immigrants', like what happened in Ballymena?
Many things that are normal in NI have their roots in sectarianism. Painting the kerb in union Jack or tricolour colours is also normal, but has roots in racism.
If they are complaining about immigration, it's about legal and illegal. People they meet are always the good ones. It's the imaginary ones that love a life of Reilly on a pittance that they hate. Everything is too expensive, even when you work, while simultaneously, migrants like refugees who get basic money to live are the problem.
Yeah, the racists like to say that, then they refuse to differentiate between the two. Almost like it's not the legality party they were concerned about.