Private Email Showdown: Proton vs Tuta vs Fastmail

I’ve been using Germany based mailbox and I’ve been pretty happy with it.

+1 for mailbox (mailbox.org). I've have a business and personal account with them since I degoogled during the pandemic. Nothing but good things to say about them. 👍

Proton needs to fire Andy before I remotely start to trust them again.

the first one had some controversy with the creator

my preference is the second

what exactly is the third?

It was blown out of proportion and misinterpreted in places yeah, but it's reddit... it wasn't a good look at all though and he shouldn't have said it. The real problem I have with Proton is all this time investment in useless features, like AI. Instead of focusing on a few products.
Tuta I am in the process of trying, it's got a slow and dated interface vs Proton, but still functional. It's slightly cheaper vs Proton too. I'm still debating if I go Proton or Tuta + Mullvad.
- i remember when it happened
  didn’t he double down with justifications instead of flat out separating himself from the claim?
  this pretty much matches my memory
  https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/comments/1id5v21/does_proton_really_support_trump_a_deeper/mbfaw4e/
  it was more Libertarian delusion than directly Trump supporting but it was pretty concerning regardless
  i wonder how many readers came in after shit got white washed
The controversy wasn't really true https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
- How was it not true... State your case here instead of providing some blog shit post.
- That article is such bullshit. That anonymously submitted medium article that gets floated around ignores Internet Association, so wouldn’t be shocking if it was from proton attempting to do PR damage fixating on identity politics with intentional omission of Internet Association involvement.
  Yen conveniently ignored that after working at the FTC, Slater become the vice-president for legal and regulatory policy for the Internet Association lobby group. Which was founded by “small business” like Google, Amazon, eBay and Facebook.
  And involved in trying to infringe upon privacy rights. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/lawmakers-must-not-let-internet-association-weaken-california-consumer-privacy-act
  So yeah, proton founder cherry picked information that tried to make it seem like it was acceptable to praise the pick when reality is the past is too murky to endorse in any manner.
  Now seeing straight up bribing and gifts from corporations not even hiding it the whole thing aged like milk.

Techlore is a clown lol

GrapheneOS guy dressed him down pretty well few years back.

With that being said proton, has too many products. With email being best. I would advise against all in one service as matter of principle. Bootlicker CEO doesnt help their case either.

Tuta has good contacts integration

Does this video has sound, because i don't hear something

Yes, it have sound.
- No clue why all of my browser doesn't play it, but i downloaded the video, because i was interrested and yes there is sound.
Peertube HLS sometimes is broken
- What's HLS?
The 1080p version doesn't have audio try 720p
- Could be hard. It seams i only hear audio on audio only

For people who don't need the paid features, it is probably sufficient to choose an email provider like Disroot or Autistici or cock.li and use PGP encryption by means of GNU Privacy Guard or Thunderbird or Mailvelope.

Betterbird is a fork of Thunderbird that’s German 🇩🇪