Lies are comforting.

Utopianism is a failure, but a better world is possible. Taking a scientific approach to socialism works.

Only the movement must be smart, otherwise you know, soon they will introduce this fucking social rating and ban cash, then it will be shitty. And believe me, nothing will stop these fascists until they destroy our civilization playing gods, they need power for the sake of power itself, there is nothing higher.
- I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Crowder shouldn’t be given a meme format.

Utopia maybe impossible, but improvement is always better.

Also, almost? Right now I'm accessing this through a VPN because my government has mandated that every single social media website or website with a search feature put up an age gate for anything pornographic or has "sensitve content" for the "protection of children", meaning to operate in the UK, every social media company has to higher a third party to scan a picture of your face or your passport or ID.

Also, This same government actively wants to strip away basic rights like access to public toilets, hospital treatment, support services, and even things like sports, and believe I and others like me are such a threat they're gonna bring back Section 28.

So yeah, Dystopia is here.

You wait, soon they will cause an artificial crisis and ban cash, replacing it with CBDC. And then it will be China 2.0.
- You think we're gonna end up like China? The place with transit infrastructure? And a competent government? You fucking wish
- Oh boy do I have news about how actual cash currencies work in reality!

Both are possible

Dystopia is just more likely because it can be achieved through inaction

Well, to be honest, we have very little time, a year or several at most, depending on the country.

I also think true dystopia is impossible. Eventually, people reach their breaking point and everything collapses to the ground.

I mean, there's even a Seuss story about it, "Yertle the Turtle".

We can tolerate a lot of bad things because we have so much hope that things will get better, and when that hope breaks, all hell breaks loose along with it.

The original Utopia of More is a dystopia in today's standards.

Goddamn it. My eyes set upon Crowder’s horrible visage. Bleh.

What a pointless argument. At what point of societal ill do you go from "normal" or whatever to "dystopia"? You don't. Dystopia is a relative term; in a sense everything is dystopian so long as you can imagine a better world; it's the negation of utopia. Arguing "how close we are to dystopia" is missing the point; we should be arguing about what makes our society better versus worse, not getting hung up on classification labels.

Dystopia most can agree of if it gets low enough. Utopia is subjective

I disagree; I don't think there's any clear cut line at which you go from "normal" to "dystopia"; societies are dystopian by the extent to which they fail to be utopian. Fictional larger than life examples of "dystopia" grab our attention by presenting decades or centuries of changes in the blink of an eye. Often such societies aren't even more repressive than our current ones; they just are more striking in presentation. And when they ARE more repressive it's not because someone pushed the dystopia button; it's from very long recurring events that push the slider to worse and worse positions.
Well, if this becomes a reality and we live almost like in 1984, I will be interested in your reaction.