OrganicMaps asks if users care they're on GH.
OrganicMaps asks if users care they're on GH.
fosstodon.org
Organic Maps (@organicmaps@fosstodon.org)
Then gets defensive when they say yes.
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Isn't all of their concern kind of demonstrated to be unfounded? CoMaps forked the exact codebase being discussed and moved to Codeberg already, and they're doing great now. Whatever it is that the Organic Maps team thinks is indispensable on GitHub is clearly not actually an insurmountable challenge to ditch.
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Github gets an F rating as an ethical repository per gnu.org.
https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria-evaluation.html
Criteria for above: https://www.gnu.org/software/repo-criteria.html
See also: https://sanctum.geek.nz/why-not-github.html
All of the above are pretty old and things have surely changed since then, but probably for the worse.
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I use and donate[d] to OrganicMaps. I think they're great, but I paused donations around the CoMaps split and have been waiting for the dust to settle. Their responses in the fosstodon thread seem so tone def: They're asking about github on a mastodon instance and responding that it'll be a worse product if they move. Thinking it's time I give CoMaps a shot. [edit: add 2nd link for context]
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Oooh, didn't realize CoMaps was on Codeberg. https://codeberg.org/comaps/comaps
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How is it a worse product if they move?
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They seem to think github's PR, CI, etc features are head-and-shoulders above the rest, and are hand-waving concerns around vender lock-in. They're also saying it would be painful to move because of the aforementioned vendor features that have them locked in. Really seems to miss why many go FOSS in the first place.
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I use CoMaps as my main maps app and it works great
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According to the open letter those donations to Organic Maps were used for a personal holiday. Along with everything else in there, I'm not using it any longer.
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I will never understand the Free software developers that go to bat for GitHub.
Microsoft hates you and everything you spend countless hours building for free. They steal your work and sell shittier versions of it for exorbitant profit that they do not share with the community. They contract with ICE. They sell AI tools to Israel to help them commit genocide, and their CI offering is a total fucking mess.
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That's a dead project, killed by CoMaps and just bleeding slowly from the wound. I don't care about where they're hosted, but I do about fucking Kayak ads, that's a deal breaker.
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I use and recommend OSMAnd, but if you absolutely need an app that does less, CoMaps is a better choice
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Last time I checked (years ago admittedly) OSMand didn't have usable navigation but maybe I should re-check
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It's OK. Doesn't route for traffic and a lot of the places of interest are missing or out of date in my area. Does have features for stuff like semi trucks and large trailers, which is interesting.
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It works great for me. I usually make GPX in advance for cycling and just follow it, but choosing navigation as a car avoiding motorways and tolls also works great (at least in Croatia, Slovenia, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Romania, Serbia and Bosnia). If you admit you're a bicycle it'll send you through people's yards tho, but it's mostly friendly yards that are supposed to be public walking spaces but someone put some fences.
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If something works, don't change it. And GitHub, not being ideal, works pretty well.
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I agree, and I can forgive OSS projects still using it, but if they're inviting a discussion about it I'd hope they'd be more sensitive that:
- github is not static
- being on a Microsoft platform carries a significant risk (embrace, extend, extinguish).
- There are plenty of successful OSS hosted elsewhere and each one helps the whole system grow.
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windows 10 works pretty well too. all things amazon work pretty well too. google's services very rarely have bugs, even less security breaches. they are all so convenient! why are people switching to alternatives, that are sometimes worse, sometimes better?
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Win 10 might work pretty well. But win 11 fucking sucks.
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I switched from OrganicMaps to CoApps recently. CoMaps is a fork or OrganicMaps. One of the things they fix is that they moved the source from Github to Codeberg.