Adding PieFed/Lemmy to lists of privacy options could raise awareness of its existance
I've seen PrivacyPack go Viral on subs like r/deGoogle etc.
Having PieFed etc. in here could help raise awareness I made a Pull Request to add it, hopefully it gets accepted https://github.com/ente-io/privacypack/pull/122
I use most of them or similar alternatives, but this is the first time I hear about Migadu:
After a quick lookup: it's a service, not an app, it's not on the cheaper side, the smallest subscription is 19€ per year. https://www.migadu.com/pricing/
I pay for my mailbox.org email 12€ per year, I will stay with mailbox.
It's more expensive if you only have one account. But the price doesn't really go up if you have more accounts
For 19€ per year you and your family could all have 10+ email accounts each, all on different domains
What would mailbox.org cost you for 5 accounts using your own domain?
if you're not using your own domain, you're kind of vendor locked
Migadu is indeed a bit more expensive, but I've heard good things about it. IIRC they offer more domains https://www.migadu.com/pricing/#what-is-the-domains-limit-on-the-micro-plan
Mailbox is also a good options, they just redid their UI, it was posted recently on !buyeuropean@feddit.uk
I never used thier webui, thunderbird on desktop and android works really well. I see migadu has extra features for the higher price, but I don't need those. 2gb is enough for me, I backup to my server then delete old emails from the cloud
It's more expensive if you only have one account. But the price doesn't really go up if you have more accounts
For 19€ per year you and your family could all have 10+ email accounts each, all on different domains
Is Lemmy/Piefed really that desperate for growth that lies are needed to raise awareness?
Federation and privacy are incompatible. You can't tell me Lemmy is private when Google can just get all your data for free with minimal work and without you ever getting even just a hint about it.
If you post something to a public forum, obviously it's public that's no surprise to anyone.
That's not the whole picture, Mainstream social media are some of the worst offenders when it comes to privacy, they use trackers and share all your data with advertisers.
Lemmy/Piefed doesn't
Some people are claiming the fedi is not private and anyone can see "all your data". This is sooo simplistic.
Yes federation means anyone can see your posts and votes which reduces privacy. But in comparison the privacy-invasive stuff that mainstream social media does goes way way beyond that.
PieFed has no Google analytics, no Facebook pixel, no mobile app hoovering up all your phone contents, no telemetry, doesn't track which websites you leave to, doesn't require a real name and so on and on. It's not even in the same league.
I'm seeing great discussions around fediverse tools' level of privacy.
Can anyone speak to how different it is to trust meta/twitter/google in comparison to say the flagship piefed.social or some equivalent lemmy instance of best reputation? (I know this is more of a security Q, but yeah)
Thank you for the pull request!
I'm going to be THAT guy and point out that while Piefed and Lemmy instances have much better incentive structures to be good to their users they are very much NOT private and on the default instance setup nearly all data collected is publicly available.
EDIT: Many people in this comment section don't seem to be understanding that "Lemmy" is not one website like Reddit. Each instance is it's own thing entirely and there is ZERO guarantee than a given instance isn't using hidden trackers. This is NOT a defense of Reddit or a criticim of Lemmy software which is very good. But it is a fact and you should be wary of the motivations of anyone claiming that "Lemmy" is private or similar.
Reddit:
Lemmy/Piefed:
Privacy is a spectrum. But when 99.99% of userdata is publicly available no responsible person could call that service "private".
A detail, but I've been browsing Reddit on a VPN since OSA.
So has much of the UK. So I don't think their VPN checks are very good.
Thank you for the critical info--for tech-dummies like myself that still wish to use piefed in a most private/secure way, would it be better to use a non-default instance? Please advise on anything else that can be done as best practices here please
A default installation of Lemmy/Piefed won't track users beyond what they intentionally do on the site. But if you want to be sure, then you can always host your own instance of one person. (In addition to all user activity), other instances can only see the IP of the instance the account is hosted on.
If you want something to be private then well, don't post to the public web (as a reminder- DMs aren't private on Piefed/Lemmy). If you want to be anonymous, then use a VPN and don't repeat a username you used elsewhere.
With the big difference being that all that data is what the users explicitly put into it. No hidden trackers.
I think they are trying to say that any instance could theoretically add hidden trackers to their own website, which is not the same as users putting in their own data.