California Gov. Gavin Newsom is floating a federal tax boycott

I don't think there's really a way to do this, since federal taxes are paid directly to the fed without state involvement. This is just to poke the bear, which I am all for.

Be sure to hydrate if you do.

It'll be like a firehose connected to a main

I don't think I want a bucket coming out if that particular hole.

Fascism only has one speed: Blitzkrieg.

Any other speed would be slow enough for people to have enough time to band together and organize a resistance to this horseshit.

That's literally the only playbook. Break everything: Go fast. Hit people with so much horseshit they are still stuck trying to process the one from 2 weeks ago, because since then 5 other constitutional crisis' have happened and now they're deporting both of your neighbors.

At this rate they'll be deploying the Marines to LA's streets by July!

I didn’t expect it to be Gavin Newsom. Pleastly suprised

California, Oregon, and Washington are all donor states that contribute a combined ~$160 billion more to the federal government than they get back each year. They also make up $3.1 trillion of the GDP, they have all mainland west coast ports, and they’re major agricultural states. They’d honestly be better off if they banded together to Bugs Bunny off.

I would recommend getting armed if this were to happen...just in case.

I want the timeline where Carter won a second term and the Christian nationalists funding Reagan realized their plan didn't work and give up on it.

If history has taught me anything, the dems will run schumer.

As someone living in California, I could certainly use some more money... Doesn't help my employer moved me here then reneged on my proposed salary. It's very hard to make it here, but ultimately worth it. For me anyhow.

Yeah, but just wait for when King Trump makes California pay tariffs to trade with the remaining states! He'll bleed CA dry!

accelerationism?

Iirc, California is like the 5th largest economy in the world. Secession sounds like a great way to crash the US economy.

balkanization

For uninformed people like myself:

Balkanization is the process of a country or region fragmenting into smaller, often hostile units, typically driven by ethnic, cultural, religious, or geopolitical differences. The term originates from the Balkan Peninsula, a region that has experienced significant fragmentation throughout history, and the term is now used more broadly to describe similar processes elsewhere.

I'm not looking forward for the chaos preceding the emergence of the next superpower if US balkanization happens.

I would really like to come visit if the road border near Detroit is still relatively safe. My passport and driver's license have the same name and gender so I might have a chance.

I’m neither rich nor skilled enough :( If I was I’d be up there like yesterday

It's grandstanding.....but it pisses off the Orange Turdburgler so I can't complain too much.

I won't be holding my breath, but it would be hilarious.

I'd definently like him a lot more if he did

I barely know anything about Newsom's track record, but based on the last few months dude has the biggest balls I've seen on any US politician in a long time.

Most people have their federal tax withheld by their employers and do their taxes in order to get back their overpayment. Are we all going to not do our taxes and leave that overpayment in the government's coffers? Are employers going to stop doing the withholding? Neither scenario is very likely.

For people like me who have some savings and investments but don't want to run afoul of the law - Just take a couple years off. I'm working part time to cover my cost of living, and I'm not investing. So minimizing what I pay in income tax and taxes on dividends.

I hope people reading this aren't taking this advice seriously... The IRS will fuck you up. They have less funding, but that only means that they only go after low hanging fruit (AKA people who can't afford a team of lawyers to fight). They'll garnish your fucking wages.

Kinda crazy that the comment is so highly upvoted... I get the sentiment, but you're giving people really bad advice here.

"Doing your taxes next cycle" just accounts for bonuses/corrections after reviewing taxes that had been paid through the year. It happens every paycheck.

Some people have very daringly chosen to withhold all taxes from each paycheck - there are legal reasons you might do this like "I plan to have a large tax write-off", but without said reason, it's very possible the IRS would come after you.

the govt doesn't need money to spend it btw - this is how we got the national debt

this could affect something but not as much as youmight think

I’m not sure how legal it is for CA to stop paying taxes. At the very least, it’s an attempt to attack where it hurts, which is in the money.

Don't bet on hope from this. California can't win on its own.this needs to build significantly before it has an effect.

While I agree, I think that's a better comparison to the LA protests and the National Guard being called in. An entire state government "going rogue" (and the support that they may or may not have from the other states) is in a whole other class, especially when you consider the legal framework that separates the powers of the state from the federal government. It's closer to Brexit than anything else, imo, but even that doesn't truly match up with the intricacies of the power struggle since the members of the EU have their own militaries instead of a unified military under the governance of a body separate from its member countries.

The Reichstag Fire was most likely a false-flag that the Nazis used to consolidate power... They're waiting for something to pop off so they have an excuse for martial law or whatever. If it doesn't happen on its own, then they'll probably just do it themselves. Agents provocateur are the oldest trick in the book.

I don't think he is a puppet of Putin. I think he really, really likes money and power, that's it. He does things to further his own grip of the country, thus increasing his power. Or, he does things to increase his wealth. Nothing more. He likes authoritarian leaders because they have more of a hold on their respective countries (a weird form of respect), or because they give him money (or expensive planes).

I don't think Trump is as much of a lackey that's following the plan as he is a useful idiot that's easy to manipulate. I believe that Trump believes that the US is the biggest and the best - it suits the same image he has of himself as the biggest and best leader - but he's so dumb and narcissistic that he won't realize that he's being led on a leash.

I don't think Trump consciously wants to destroy America, I think he wants to make it what he considers to be great (a militarily powerful dictatorship built on worshiping him), but he's absolutely fine with making it weaker in the interim if it either:
A. Makes him gain something
B. Feeds his ego

It might put California on the track to surviving Trump's destruction and becoming a civilized country opposed to Putin, unlike other US states.

This is, hands down, the funniest version of this that I have seen.

I even heard it in his voice goddamnit.

This is art.

As Trump has shown, legality doesn't matter if you can drag out the legislative process long enough. Clearly, California withholding taxes will be struck down by the courts, but the damage will be done if it can be dragged out long enough to disrupt the bond market even further than Taco already has.

Doubt they'll be paying much taxes if everyone is a prisoner in their own homes

His plan to lose his most valuable states? Probably not. He’s just an idiot out of control.

Project 2025 shows that the Republicans have at least one person with the ability to plan long term strategy.

you don't need to wait for the government to do that.

Trumptard is really really really really trying to start a civil war. Amazing :/

Hasn't actually happened yet though.

All red states. It would cripple the country and thus ALL red states.

CA CA

Most Americans would be unhappy in Canada. You don't have the right to own a gun in Canada. Employees have rights in Canada. We have actual religious freedom in Canada, not the right to discriminate based on "religion". Women have the right to choose in Canada. Hate speech isn't protected in Canada. We're a VERY different country even compared to your most liberal states.

I don't know how they could implement this across the private sector, but the State of California has a quarter million employees for which they could probably stop sending tax withholdings to the feds.

According to this random site I found Googling, it's around $230M every month.

They would have employers stop withholding federal taxes.