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  • I actually think we could take the country in 2028 if we organized. Outside of traditional social media, maybe on some new Federated social media not run by douchebags which may or may not control many of these forums. With a slate of populist candidates offering real reform, a new deal, we could trounce whomever is going to replace the president in the next election. But after that? The fix will be in completely. The fix is already in in many ways but we could still overcome it with an overwhelmingly popular mandate. Not with Gavin newsom.

  • Well, there was once this bad businessman, he did his business bad, which is to say he collected blackmail files on everybody.

    ,He seized control of a party fully intent on becoming a one-party State and overthrowing the Republic of their own accord and brought the plan ahead of schedule.

    Now those in reality rejoiced! Yay, because they lost the election we can now stop them and their Half Baked attempt to overthrow the republic!

    But alas, it was not so. Old man Hindenburg thought it was 1990 and mumbled some shit about whatever while it literal coup against the American Republic went unpunished and was openly organized for another go.

    The second coup worked, and all Patriots despaired. Waiting for this dumpster fire to burn itself out.

  • In the United States voting is done at the state level. As such this is something many of us are working on, many of us have voters sponsored ballot initiatives where enough votes can get an issue on a ballot for an up or down vote, it is how we legalize marijuana. Anyway we have one of those coming up here in Michigan and other states for ranked Choice voting.

    The United States is a shit show though, too little too late I fear.

  • Jesus christ. I did not noticed that thanks. Kind of a what the fuck kind of situation here.

    I have a better one for you though, Nazis take uncontested control of the United States government. Then overthrow all Western governments.

    That is actually way more horror than anything you guys are talking about, and it's true. Sweet dreams.

  • Ha ha, I know, They're not working for the left wing or four causes, they are looking to as you say stir up shit, make left-wing people look bad, and often to reduce turnout, which is an all too easy sell given how much the Democrats suck

    You could replace Democrats with the left Center option of almost any Western Country here. They will all fall like dominoes if we do not get a viable reform alternative. Don't fool yourselves, Russia and the United States will be helping behind the scenes to get their own right-wing hacks in to put a permanent fix in on elections just as they're planning on doing here. A fix on elections, on the media, preventing any criticism, there is no bottom to this.

  • So it is our fault for not believing hard enough! Don't let any number of half wits convince you you have a sensical argument here. Any group of reasonable people would ridicule you to your face.

    And I scoff at it as well. We knew what the Republicans were, yet they were allowed to run as status quo three presidential elections in a row, offering zero real reform and more plutocratic rot while Republicans promised retribution to the rich that are ass fucking us without our consent.

    What the fuck did you think was going to happen? Seriously, you should rethink your sources of information if you believe that at this time. Like holy shit.

  • Seeing as I without any tools or information in able to spot influence operations left and right operating in Broad daylight, often in arrogant impunity of the actual rules and abusing real users trying to stand up for reality, I know the social media companies with all of their tools and all the data can see these influence operations.

    Any they remove or restrict would be the exception not the rule. As I said, why would they? It makes their advertising more valuable, all of society is based on lies at this point. Nothing matters outside of their own self-advancement. No matter the harm that results. Millions of people going to be thrown into concentration camps and exterminated? Tough shit. Apparently.