Order Without Rulers @ WilliamFBuckley @lemy.lol

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Not upset at all. :)

I don’t get it, have I done something to upset or hurt you?

Not at all. I think we're friends and have the same goals. All good fun, mate!

No problem. I knew you and I were just alike. And see there? You are even going all "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and mentioning my name in our conversation. How very Carnegie of you. Well it worked! I definitely trust you now!

And because I know you so well, I know you aren't saying that as a subtle call-out that ya think ya "know" who I really am. And by saying my name, you are just emphasizing it--ya know, a subtle shout-out to let me know ya got me all figured out. But how could ya dare accuse me of something?! Because then I'd ask for proof, then you would be in that whole hard place of accusing without proof. So saying my name is def not a wink-and-nod thinking that you are smarter than me.

Besides, as we both know, you wouldn't have to be so subtle about it. You are smarter than I am.

I would never figure out that you were trolling me; you are being so polite and respectful! Any wink-wink's you have, would totally go over my head anyway.

Come on, why would I even suspect that? I love that you are so honest and not arguing in bad faith. :)

I don’t think I’ve ever done that.

Nah.. of course not!

I definitely haven’t done this.

Nah.. of course not! Because that would make you a total troll. And no way you would be a troll. You are a stand-up guy. You are helping the conservative cause! No way you would ever do that.

And hey, to be honest, I'm not very bright. So I'd probably never notice if ya did. I mean, come on, you know I'd totally fall for you saying stuff like, "do you have any proof?" or "anything to back that accusation up?" Or even "Hey my conservative community is a bastion of free speech and not just to mock conservatives!" I would read that and think to myself, "Yep, he's a stand-up guy and not arguing in bad faith."

So really, thank you for not taking advantage of my dullness. Thank you for not really just trying to be meta and out-troll a group of people you think are trolls. Thank you for not seeing conservatives as worthy of mocking just because you know, the democrats lost the easiest fucking election in the world against fucking Trump of all people!

I am glad you are not one of those folks. Thanks for being such a stand-up guy who's not so bitterly disappointed in the election results that he decides he is just gonna troll conservatives as much as he can. You know, just to have a little sense of control over the chaos.

Whew! Sooo glad you are not like that and that you are on our side!!

But I def don't want to fall under the impression that you are arguing in bad-faith. Oh no, I’d never assume you’re arguing in bad faith. I mean, you, of all people, wouldn’t be the kind of guy who lurks in conservative spaces just to drop random shit posts and quietly giggle to yourself about “wasting their time.” That’d be petty and juvenile.

And that type of guy would be the type to hijack communities and turn them into meme dumps mocking the exact people they're supposed to represent. Or the type to proudly brag in other subs about how clever they are for doing it.

And that type of person would show up here just to stir shit and go full "Debate Club Captain" on every conservative post, demanding ten sources and a notarized affidavit for every opinion. Laughing again about how they're just stirring up shit because they don't like conservatives. Nah, I just can't see you doing that.

And getting banned for not being civil? That wouldn’t make you double down out of spite, no sir. You're clearly just a thoughtful, principled guy here to engage respectfully and support conservative causes. Totally.

I mean... right?

But are you saying you haven't seen examples of Lemmy calling people nazis? I just wanna be clear...

Are you saying that you haven't seen examples of people on Lemmy calling people Nazis?

You are free to stay. I never asked you to leave. I merely mentioned that if you are that concerned, you could always start your own community where political discourse is a rule and not an exception.

You are totally free to stay. And I am totally free not to have to explain anything to you unless I feel like it.

you must have proof of liberals calling people Nazis right?

So let me get this straight. You need proof that Lemmy liberals call people nazis?! LMAO

Do you need this proof because you have never seen that before here on Lemmy? I just wanna be clear here.

Because surely you aren't asking in bad faith. You are a fellow conservative community mod. You are helping the cause. So I hesitate to think you would be arguing in bad faith. Not you. No...not you. I know how much you are against trolling and sealioning.

Alright then! Good job. See? We're all on the same team. It's awesome to see you helping the conservative cause!

Then why are you posting here and not your conservative communities, comrade?

Surely you are not posting here in bad faith. I know how much you hate trolls. And you like the conservative cause so much you are a mod to conservative communities.

So it seems like you should be happy here. It's another great conservative community. Lemmy needs more conservative communites! I'm glad you are doing your part to help conservatives out!

supporting jew nazis at any cost

That sounds like bigotry and discrimation on your part. Ewwww...

A few comments in and I’m already being told to make my own community.

Be the change that you wanna be, guy! I'm not scared at all. I just told you I don't have to have deep political discourse with you.

So what's your community gonna be called? Maybe when I am in the mood for political discourse with references and citations, I can post there.

Oh I have no problem with it. I think it's hilarious. This community is also a free speech stronghold for everyone to have civil discussions.

I think it's awesome that you feel so strongly about how great the conservative cause is that you mod conservative communities. Because if you took those over just to mock and get back at conservatives, then that would be a form of trolling. And we all know that you definitely don't like to troll. So that's awesome!

lol

Lemmy has shown me that we can call anyone who disagrees with us, "nazis" and "fascists" without proof. If you don't like that, then please take it up with Lemmy admin.

I'm just following Lemmy's example. Do you ask liberal Lemmy posters for "proof" when they call people nazis and fascists? You seem a bit biased by not doing that. I would hate to start questioning your motivations.

After all, you mod some conservative communities. Surely you wouldn't be acting in bad faith and just doing that to mock conservatives, right?!

That’s what passes for political discourse here?

This isn't a college class. It's a fucking internet forum. I don't have to have political discourse with references, and proof and citations.

You seem like the snowflake here. If you don't like this community, then please feel free to start you own. And in your community, you can have rules for "political discourse" and make sure that the only people who respond have proof and citations and references.

Be the change you wanna see, guy!

And if Harvard is so awesome, then they can do just fine without political funding. :)

What civility rule have I broken? You asked who the nazis were and I answered using Lemmy Logic.

So are you disagreeing with Lemmy? Be careful, you're gonna get canceled real quick if you don't go with the Lemmy wave.

Looks they are learning from out good examples. Great news.

Oh, I don't need proof. Lemmy has shown me that we can just call anyone who disagrees with us "nazis." Oh and we can call them "fascists" too. It's easy. Everyone does it!

So ewww, the Dems/liberals are such nazis and fascists. And hey, if you support them, then you are a fascist nazi too.

I'm just following Lemmy's example. :)

Nope. If Harvard is so awesome, then I’m sure they can do just fine without federal funding.