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I'd just like my train to stop getting interrupted with railbusses but that's on me for living in logan

damn RIP :(

I think we both agree piracy is bad though :)

https://aussie.zone/post/25191147/19119941

at least tidal and spotify are paying artists something

was it really foggy this morning? I don't wake up till well past that

did you have the actual concern? i read the article and didn’t see any actual privacy issues besides:

the company’s algorithm-driven model that relies heavily on user data collection

do they really think i care that spotify knows what i listen to and when i listen to it in order to give me recommendations?

it’s one of the rare cases on the internetweb where im more than happy to give them as much data as they want in exchange for giving me better recommendations for artists and songs that i might like and listen to

The graphic from Statista below shows that Tidal is one of the higher payouts for streaming

that chart isn’t accurate at all because that’s not how pay per stream works

it might be true that tidal has a high payout rate per stream, but if you notice on the right is how many listeners there are, tidal has n/a vs spotify’s 265 million, i believe its up to 276 million now

there’s straight up just more people streaming which dilutes the pay per stream because there’s more people streaming than ever, billions of streams every hour

spotify’s streaming rate is variable for each artist because it’s your number of monthly streams x your total share of all streams

the more streams you get, the bigger the share, the higher the payout, there are millions of artists getting plenty of streams and are very happy with what they’re getting

spotify also has different rates depending on where you are and what your plan is, so im on premium and live in australia so my payout per stream is near the top, someone on an ad supported plan in india is paying out a fraction of what i do, but maybe that ad supported indian user will get a good job soon and enjoys spotify but hates the ads so he gets premium, adding to the pool that gets paid out to artists and spotify is #1 by a long way

also funny that the company with unlimited money (apple) has such a low payout rate on that inaccurate chart, vs spotify which pays out 70% of its companies revenues to rights holders

Spotify pays out about 70% of its gross revenue to rightsholders. That’s a significant portion of their income. In accounting terms, their cost of goods sold is 70%. Tidal also pays out around 70% of its revenues to rightsholders

https://blog.discmakers.com/2025/06/why-does-spotify-pay-the-lowest-royaltie/#h-TOC_01

whatever works though

ThatKamGuy mentioned the price cycle, here's an article on it:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-26/coles-woolworths-supermarket-price-specials-cost-of-living/104470674

But yeah I switched to Aldi's "regal cola" instead of buying coke, Aldi has it nice and low cost all the time

Lemmy summarised:

When streaming services don’t pay independent musicians with 10 listeners per month a living wage: 🤬

When Lemmy users pirate music and pay artists literally nothing: 🤓

It’s because we live in late stage capitalism

This place is so high on its own social justice warrior juices I'm so glad normal people don't know I post here

Spotify adding a share music with your friends feature is late stage capitalism my gosh are you being dramatic or what

Apple Music also has flac quality if that interests you and you don’t have to pay extra for it

Spotify has this now as well and you don't pay extra for it

They have not respected user privacy

What do you mean by this? How haven't they?

I listen to some niche artists and if I’m streaming, I want to maximize their profit off my streaming.

That's funny so do I, I listen to a lot of music and the majority are not popular, this helps increase the share of the pie so the artists I listen to get paid more

May I ask why me having a positive opinion of Spotify is important?

It's not

for sure

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/01/carbon-border-tax-us-china-and-india-lash-out-at-eu-climate-policy.html

lets see what happens!!

In 2023, thousands of protesters attempted to dismantle one of the reservoirs in Sainte-Soline, clashing with the French police and armed forces in a battle featuring “stones, fireworks, and Molotov cocktails.”

To Carton and Malm, the clash at Sainte Soline is an example of what happens when governments are faced with worsening climate impacts but decline to reduce emissions

It's hard to take the idea of not reducing emissions written by anyone from a western country, afaik not one western country has increased its emissions in the last 10 years.

Payout to artists

They pay out more to artists than literally anyone else?

For another year, Spotify was the highest-paying retailer globally — paying the music industry over $10 billion in 2024. This brings total lifetime payouts to nearly $60 billion.

Ease of use

I don't find Spotify difficult to use at all

No idea about privacy policy