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Absent from this analysis: reduction in QALYs resulting from perfectly good men being denied a child bride by some evil meddling NGO. Will someone please think of the poor men?

I'm actually somewhat surprised that the rationalists didn't bring this up.

I have nothing interesting to say about the article, but I got a kick out of what orange site thinks:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38221178

Why does someone who writes great sci-fi suddenly have social capital to weigh in on industry and politics, two things firmly outside of his wheelhouse?

How absolutely dare someone comment about the perceived impact of their work?

but at what point did our hatred of capitalists (note: I don't hate capitalists) decide to overshadow our, you know, lifelong lust for the stars?

pauses sentence to perform a quick act of fellatio

Every time I read a technologist's screed against Musk or Bezos or Zuckerberg (three people whose combined lifetime works do not even scratch a fraction of the economic value incinerated by the US military in 40 weeks) all I can see is sour grapes and ad hominem.

Maybe take off your Musk-sperm-tinted glasses then?

These people did not create nor perpetuate the attributes of the dystopia you claim to reside in (that was the CIA). (It's also not actually a dystopia, or anything resembling one; ask any of the two billion people lifted out of dirt poverty (largely due to technology!) in the last three decades.)

No no no, it wasn't a system of misaligned incentives and lack of accounting of negative externalities that has created the dystopic world we live in today, it was the CIA! Wait, it's not actually a dystopia!

The old planet will go to hell in its own way from its own inhabitants. I'd rather live in space where it's safer. (Also, how cool would it be to escape before Earth is finally fully conquered? This would mean that humans as a species successfully avoid a total hierarchy.)

[The forces that are destroying the planet]

[The people trying to get to space]

They're the same picture.

This is hard for me to digest because I have a lot of respect for Karpathy. His famous article on the potential of LSTMs as language models absolutely blew my mind. The innovations that led to LLMs stand on his shoulders, so how can he have such a poor take here?

I had a long sneer typed out but my shitty Lemmy app deleted my draft. Fuck the orange site and it's sophists. The whole prison subthread is probably one of the most disgusting things I've read from that shit hole in recent memory.

ow fuck! my toe!

What happened with SBF will happen with an AI given a similar target, in terms of having misalignments that start out tolerable but steadily grow worse as capabilities increase and you face situations outside of the distribution, and things start to spiral to places very far than anything you ever would have intended.

Ah yes, one day someone will accidentally install the "I'm sorry, I can't let you do that Hal" plugin. Oops, I let the nuke launch AI override all of our control mechanisms, silly me!

I fucking hate x-risk people so much.

I'm a nixos fanatic, thank you very much! I even installed nixos on my (non-technical) SO's computer. Was this a mistake? Yes. Do I care? no.

orange site: great! I loved thiel but now that I can see him licking boots I love him even more!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37956568

Random musings but I feel like posting: I almost got sucked into the urbit hole. I thought it was such a cool idea and implementation, and all the fun names and technical purity was so attractive to me at age 18 (this was before the crypto circus and urbit barely did anything except talk to a terminal).

It took me a while to realize that there is, actually, zero reason to give nonsensical names to literally every aspect of software, and also pretty dumb to try to shoehorn everything through a tiny functional core ("Nock") while slowly re-learning all the lessons of 50 years of compiler development. So why use it at all?

Using urbit over a normal Linux stack comes purely with downsides. Slow, buggy, obscurantist, and so on. This means whoever actually dedicates their precious time to developing this unconditionally buys into the ideology. I never thought an ideology could be so powerful that it could corrupt the minds of my people (software monkeys).

Urbit is a truly fascist^HHnating phenomenon.

A reminder that Rationalists have absolutely No Fucking Clue what they're talking about when it comes to quantum mechanics, and this is evident from the very top.

Here is their prophet's, Eliezer Yudkowsky's, brilliant writings on QM: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/5vZD32EynD9n94dhr/configurations-and-amplitude

In this stunning vindication of Dunning-Kruger, EY sets up a thought experiment of a photon being ejected at a half-silvered mirror. Then, he realizes that QM is formulated with complex numbers, so he decides to shoehorn them by imagining a "computer program" that computes the result of the experiment and using the complex numbers as the internal state (because he read somewhere that a wave function is a complex-valued function). From there, he goes on to realize that he needs to actually justify the use of complex numbers, so he drops the fact that multiplying the "internal state" by i represents the photon turning 90 degrees (what?! yes, multiplying by i rotates complex numbers by 90 degrees but this has literally nothing to do with the direction the photon travels, what the ACTUAL fuck am I reading?)

I seriously want to pull my hair out after reading this asinine nonsense. MIT OCW's QM course is extremely accessible to anyone with a decent high-school math education but these chucklefucks' need to prove to themselves that they're smart supercedes any process of actual learning.

edit because I can't stop sneering: "wave function collapse" is purely born of the Copenhagen interpretation which EY rails against as ridiculous (which, admittedly, isn't a totally unpopular opinion for real physicists to have). This is, of course, 100% lost on SBF.

It would be extremely convenient for Sam "16 million dollar penthouse" Bankman-Fried if this whole deal was just an "oopsie, silly me." I get the schadenfreude angle but this guy totally doesn't deserve freedom.

What I'm the most thrilled about, however, is how he has effectively dismantled the rational case for "effective altruism" by showing how mind-bogglingly stupid the idea "earn to give" is. It's so easy to shut them down now with 3 magic letters: SBF

The amount of lazy "it is what it is" takes makes me want to vomit.

Every system has some form of bias, more or less, and a system that has less of a functional bias than another system isn't necessarily a better one

I can't even begin to comprehend how asinine this take is.

Nah bro, when GPT-5 comes out all code it'll write will exactly match the specification, and it'll also sim the entire universe to guess your mental state and correct any mistakes you made in your specs.

You were asked to give a use-case for LLMs, and with this comes the implicit assumption that it's not something that can be easily done with a tool that costs about seven orders of magnitude less to produce and operate.

A bunch of junior devs writing repetitive code because it's easier or people refusing to learn proper tools because "AI can write my JSON" aren't exactly good reasons tor the rest of the industry to learn how LLMs work. Don't get me wrong, there are good reasons, but you've not listed any.

For how much these fucks talk about "overcoming bias", they seem ABSOLUTELY incapable of overcoming their bias for IQ as a good measure of anything outside of acute mental disability. They want a simple answer to the question that has plagued their small minds forever: "Am I smarter than that person over there?" They cling to their number like a life-preserver in the ocean of society.

It's just so pathetic.

The problem is far worse than what any single billionaire can fix. Billions of dollars are being poured into renewable energy infrastructure. It's just that while this is happening, we're also emitting the same amount of CO2 as always. The only long-term resolution of this is de-growth.

I haven't finished the video yet but wow, that was truly shocking. I used to think that psychedelic experiences nudge people to be "better" in some abstract sense that I will not define, but now I see that what I thought was completely wrong.

Education, not prohibition is still my stance; for every Scott encouraging people to take amphetamine, there should be someone who can eloquently describe how it turns you into a soulless focused monster who disregards everything except the goal of the minute, including pesky concerns such as hydration, nutrition, and social interaction. Just like everything else, it's a tool.

Just noticed this sticky. I'm here because nowhere else do people shit on Yudkowsky enough. Fuck that hack with a chainsaw, metaphorically of course.

Ok. But this part is pretty reasonable:

Think about how wasteful all of this is. We throw people in jail for using Adderall without a prescription. We expel them from colleges. We fight an expensive and bloody War on Drugs to prevent non-prescription-holders from getting Adderall. We create a system in which poor people need to stretch their limited resources to make it to a psychiatrist so they can be prescribed Adderall, in which people without health insurance can never get it at all, in which DEA agents occasionally bust down the doors of medical practices giving out Adderall illegally.

It's absolute bullshit that I can't buy amphetamine at my corner store if I want to. Yes, it's probably bad in the long-run. But I fucking want it.

Edit to add more substance: I also believe without evidence that "ADHD" is a lingering result of the transition of humanity to a sedentary lifestyle, but some are better equipped to deal with it than others. The whole binary of "You have ADHD" and "You don't" is utter nonsense made up by the prohibition state to justify medicating people with amphetamine.

I wonder, in this supposed apocalyptic future, who is making the semiconductors that will be needed to secure the bitcoin network? Can it really be considered a collapse if we have a 100% working semiconductor industry? How fucking stupid are these people that they don't even ask the first obvious question?