sue_me_please @ sue_me_please @awful.systems

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What a bunch of fucking ghouls.

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Thanks for this, really valuable work!

I'm curious what the qualitative description of child marriage usually looks like in these cases- I have two very rough mental images:

A 14 year-old girl learning very little at school/ barely attends school. She's very unlikely to continue studying past the age of 16. Her (very low-income) parents struggle to continue supporting her and would rather she married earlier to reduce their burden and make a bit of bridewealth money (maybe to concentrate resources on another child). She gets married, her husband takes on responsibility for her (he might be more responsible/ caring than her parents), and her life outcomes don't change much from if she were to get married at 17.

A 14 year-old girl is learning quite a lot at school. She dreams of going to college/ sixth-form/ university and could even afford to if she got a part-time job, but family/ cultural pressure leads her to get married early. She has a child at 15, is forced to stay in her village, and all of her plans go to waste.

Could it be that people like to imagine something more like the second scenario when the first is more common?

These people are completely fine with child marriage/rape if the kids didn't do well in school like they did. Their ability to empathize completely breaks down the second it meets their contempt for non-nerds.

These are the psychopaths who think they're effective altruists.

Lmao I thought this was satire

This is one of my favorite things, as well. Hopefully someone can find him. Do you have a link to the Mercer's Reddit account, that sounds hilarious.

If you want a weird internet rabbithole to go down, look up the guy who is running for president in Alaska and check out his social media.

It's always been a way to replace all welfare programs with a check, instead of being a supplement to existing welfare programs.

The goal isn't to help people, it's to eliminate the welfare system entirely.

In lieu of Mecaid and Medicare, you better hope your $800 UBI check can cover your healthcare costs, because now you're on the hook for paying for health insurance, too. Same thing with housing assistance and SNAP.

Both groups exalt the dictatorship of the market and ownership class and see it as simply the just enforcement of The Natural Order via survival of the fittest.

You can't have naked market capitalism and violent enforcement of private property restrictions without it being the groundwork for proto-fascism, IMO.

What about an AI that can tell if that cute candidate our startup hired will sleep with me or if she'll just lie and say yes and then tell HR?

And while we're at it can we make an LLM that will force my kids to call me?

Yeah, that always perplexed me. Copilot is a terrible tool if you're using it in a domain you aren't already proficient in, because it will mess up. And even worse, it'll mess up in subtle ways that most people wouldn't do themselves. You need to know what you're doing to babysit it and ensure it doesn't fuck everything up.

Thanks. Federating was a mistake lol

Cults love their neologisms.

You can't make me read that shit, it's been years and I still hate knowing what Urbit is.

They use Bayes to launder their feels.

He literally cites one of the authors of the Fascist Manifesto lmao

Patron Saints of Techno-Optimism

In lieu of detailed endnotes and citations, read the work of these people, and you too will become a Techno-Optimist.

...

Filippo Tommaso Marinetti

Whatever, I'll be a pony. Where do I sign up?

Well they are the most rational people on the planet. Bayesian thinking suggests that their own gut feelings are more likely to be correct than not, obviously.

I'd be interested in this as a developer that does a lot of open source work.

I'm pretty ignorant of it and haven't really looked into it too much,, but from the surface the "hacker culture" surrounding things like the Chaos Computer Club and whatnot seem much more palatable, seem skeptical of, or outright reject, capitalist influence and is less right-libertarian than hacker culture in the US.

Also, why wouldn't the messiah be a billionaire or pop star? My priors say God wouldn't waste his time with the poors who have low reach and virtue

People have told me with a straight face that the smartest people in the world post on LW. After this post, I am inclined to believe them.

We need to seriously consider preemptively nuking bioreactors

This is up there with the time that rationalists convinced themselves to get addicted to heroin for productivity or whatever.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34648499

EA appeals to exactly that kind of really-smart-person who is perfectly capable of convincing themselves that they're always right about everything. And from there, you can justify all kinds of terrible things.

I came to the same conclusion after a group of my friends got involved with the local rationalist and EA community, though for a different reason: Their drug habits.

They believed themselves to have a better grasp on human nature and behavior than the average person, and therefore believed they were better at controlling themselves. They also had a deep contrarian bias, which turned into a belief that drugs weren’t actually as bad as the system wanted us to believe.

Combine these two factors and they convinced themselves that they could harness recreational opioid use to improve their lives, but avoid the negative consequences that “normies” suffered by doing it wrong. I remember being at a party where several of them were explaining that they were on opioids right now and tried to use the fact that nothing terrible was happening as proof that they were performing rational drug use.

Long story short, the realities of recreational opioid use caught up with them and they were blind to the warning signs due to their hubris. I intentionally drifted away from that group around that time, so I don’t know what happened to them.

I will never forget how confident they were that addiction is something that only happens to other people, not rationalists like them.