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I got banned in a community for calling out a tankie who for tacitly supporting October 7 and calling him a terrorist because of it. Israel's disproportionate response by killing civilians does not make October 7 better. I got banned for calling a spade, a spade, but allow doublespeak if it favours their biases.
- No, you got banned for being a massive arsehole. Seems to be a habit for you.
  Mod log:
  https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=5540123
  
  Of course calling out hypocrisy from tankies will always be deemed "arsehole" by tankies (notice that all the communities that banned me are all tankies). The modlog says it all: I called out the previous comment for deliberate lying. Anyone with two brain cells to rub and time to waste to backtrack the conversation could put two and two together.
  
  Your comment contents speak for themselves. One can call out tankies without being a massive wanker. Apparently you can't, though.
  
  So supporting two state solution and calling out the deliberate turning a blind eye to October 7 atrocities is being a wanker? Mate, if there is a wanker here it's not me. Both of my eyes are not blind.
  
  I never said or even suggested any of that. You're simply deflecting and doing so quite poorly.
  It's amazing, the mental acrobatics people like you engage in to avoid taking any responsibility for their behavior. At least I admit when I'm being a git.
  
  Sure buddy. Let the brigade roll.
  
  "It's not my (rude, aggressive, bad argument slinging, hypocritical) behavior, it's everyone else, all the time! I'm being persecuted!"
  -TankovayaDiviziya, copium addict and possible narcissist
  FTFY
  
  "You can't call an asshole, an asshole. You're the asshole for calling the asshole the asshole." - some holier-than-thou virtue signaller
  
  It's not the content of your comments, it's the way they're worded. You speak with an aggressive and accusatory tone that isn't conducive to discussion.
  If you just word things a little softer, I'm sure you'll have many people agree with you, and avoid any future bans.
  I know things can get heated and emotional, and it gets to all of us at times. It takes effort and self reflection to avoid getting unnecessarily worked up
  
  Right, speak softly on those who would deny genocide and won't even hesitate to imprison those whom they have simple disagreement with. If I were insulting a Nazi, I'm sure people would be less questioning. The fact that the person in the thread called me hasbara for supporting two state solution and did not even get banned says a lot. Some people do not deserve to be given the benefit of the doubt, especially those who deny atrocities, regardless of where it comes. I don't mind the bans-- all bans I've received come from tankie communities.
- You don't blame a kicked dog for biting. That's not a tankie opinion, it was everywhere a year ago.
  ETA: Hell, I just remembered that I dropped that line during a first date in February and got an "Exactly!" in response.
  
  Human beings aren't dogs.
  
  true and irrelevant
  
  Quite relevant. As being angry is not an excuse for a human being to kill innocents. Humans have rights, including those innocents who were killed.
  
  We aren't talking about dogs here, neither are we talking about biting. We are talking about humans making the deliberate choices to kill, rape, abduct, and torture other humans. You do blame people for murder, no matter why they did it. Doesn't mean Israel doesn't do evil shit and their policy towards Palestinians isn't disgusting, but it doesn't justify murder, rape, a d torture. That doesn't mean that Israel should not be pressured to stop some of their policies and operations which are openly in defiance of international humanitarian law, not justified by need, unnecessarily and unjustified brutal, and against common decency. To claim that the actions of either side are forced upon them by necessity or somehow dictated as response is to deny their humanity, their agency as individuals and political entities, and their right to self-determination. Neither of them is justified on their actions and all of them are committing grave, non justifiable, unnecessary, and self defeating evil.
  
  Finally, someone gets it.
  There is a reason that the most centrist position on the Palestine-Israel issue is two state solution.
  
  Lmao why is this extremely reasonable comment being downvoted? Some pieces of shit in this thread.

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