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Executive order to resettle "white South African refugees"

www.independent.co.uk Trump order prioritizes US resettlement of white South Africans

Trump also shut down all South African aid, much of which is used to battle AIDS and HIV

Trump order prioritizes US resettlement of white South Africans

www.independent.co.uk /news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-opens-america-s-doors-to-immigrants-white-south-africans-b2694513.html

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Yes. He won the majority. Your point is?
- The plurality of people whose votes were counted*
  
  Semantics. The fucker won 77 million votes - and if the USA have done their homework five years ago, he wouldn't be allowed to stand in the elections again.
  
  The problem is we aren't educated on what fascism looks like in its infancy.
  We're taught Hitler came out of nowhere and took Germany overnight.
  History lessons are practically on fast forward.
  
  No, the problem is that you aren't a democracy. There are multiple reasons for that but to mention the most relevant:
  Democratically elected president should have more than 50% votes. If none of the candidates achieved that, there should be a second turn of the election with only two candidates. Trump won with less than 50% which is ridiculous. Electoral college is even more ridiculous.
  Trump attempted a political putch four years earlier and should be in prison. Why isn't he? Because in the USA, the judiciary is political and not independent from the politics and politicians. This is contrary to the basic democratic principles.
  Also, supplementary issues:
  Trump was financed to large extent by Musk. Also other actors played their role, possibly with link to other countries. This is again not democratic (although this is world wide problem and not unique to the US).
  USA electorate has an obsession over completly misunderstood "free speech". Freedom of speech is not a freedom to lie. Factual lies said by politicians to get votes are the same as lies said by salesmen to sell goods - and should be treated as the same, as fraudulent misrepresentation. Trump should be in prison solely for the lies he said to mislead the public (again, not just USA issue but much more prevalent in the USA than in other countries).
  
  This comment would be super poignant if it wasn't for your reliance on the No True Democracy fallacy.
  
  Are you a little bit slow?
  
  Are you a bit of an asshole at best, and a stupid asshole at worst?
  Am I going to block you now?
  Hint: Those questions have the same answer.
  
  Are you a bit of an asshole at best, and a stupid asshole at worst?
  Neither. Now, are you a little bit slow? Because you certainly make this kind of impression with your "no true democracy" comment, completly irrelevant to what I wrote.

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