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The back-to-office backfire: Companies ending WFH perks lose out on top talent, who view flexible work as equivalent to an 8% raise

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Employers offering remote and hybrid work options hire new talent more quickly than companies making employees to return to the office.

The back-to-office backfire: Companies ending WFH perks lose out on top talent, who view flexible work as equivalent to an 8% raise

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At least. If you work an 8 hour day, a 0.5 hour commute each way adds an extra 12.5% to work time commitment each day, and it’s considered unpaid time.
- And your gas and car wear and tear
  
  Yep, the IRS estimates that it is $0.655/mi in wear and tear on one’s car via the 2023 Mileage Rate.
  
  That depends a LOT on the car.
  A small suzuki would be a hell of a lot cheaper than a BMW 7 series.. (not in the price tag, but.. running costs)
  
  Sure, but that is the rate that the IRS has come up with as an estimate/reimbursement amount.
  
  A mile of city traffic is tremendously different than a mile of rural driving.
  
  You might need to buy additional food
  Wear and tear of work attire
  Might need to pay extra for someone to watch pet/child
  Also there are additional costs of time
  Extra time shaving or similar (if you know you are staying home some things can be delayed a bit)
  Possibly extra time to prepare food
  Traffic/weather delays
  Extra effort for small things easily manage while at home e.g accepting deliveries, watching pets or opening for maintenance workers
  That's of the top of my head, so 1 hour lost per day is a low estimate.
  
  Yeah, for me WFH is a lot more than 8% raise. It's a lot cheaper. We were paying to work and didn't even realized it
  
  Also your spine, tailbone, piriformis, hamstrings, and psoas muscles. Cars are bad for your back.
- I couldn't believe how much more time it felt like I had in the day just cutting out the short work commute. You don't really realize the extent of how much time you waste going into work until it's gone. Even a short commute adds up quick when you include all the time to get ready in the morning and decompress at night. Plus all the extra maintenance on a daily driver and gas... Companies making people go into the office when it's not even necessary are just power hungry morons. That's all there is to it.
  
  Yup. I have meetings at 8AM. If I had to do them in the office, I'll have to be up at 6AM to get ready and leave to be able to get to the office in time. If I do it at home, I wake up at 7:50, which gives me almost 2 hours of extra sleep.
  If I leave the office at 5PM, I'll get home around 6PM. At home, I can log off as soon as the clock strikes 5, and now I have an extra hour of time to do whatever.
  That adds up to around 3 hours a day that I save from not commuting to an office.
  
  And for many, half an hour primping in order to be seen in public. I guess if you're still in vid convos that somewhat still applies, but for others, now you can lay around in your underwear and stink and still get work done.
  
  My wife was talking about this recently. She used to wake up at 5:30AM everyday, take a shower, blowdry her hair and style it, put on makeup, and prep her lunch by 7AM. Then she'd set out on her 1.5 hour commute to the office.
  Once we started working from home, all of that extra time went to sleeping well and relaxing.
  
  3 hours a day of unpaid time just to get ready for work.... we were far overdue for a shift in the system.
  
  Working from home made me decide that I will never wear uncomfortable clothes again. I've seen the other side I will never go back
  
  If you have complicated health problems that can increase the amount of time done "primping" as well. I generally have to be awake three to four hours before I have to be anywhere and it's a fucking nightmare.
  
  The traveling time I'm saving by working from home, is directly reinvested into having a walk with the lady and the dogs, including sitting on a bench in the sunshine including a coffee, and if the mood is right, we're staying for my first meeting at 10:00, ...
  Money can't buy this, ...
  
  Sorry to hear about your troubles :-(
  
  I went from commuting 1-3 hours a day to zero commute. It is unbelievable how much of a quality of life improvement it is.
  I am grateful I worked in a couple offices before switching to fully remote for my next few jobs, because it showed me how much better remote working is for me.
  
  It's not just the commute even, my "morning routine" is maybe 10 minutes if I'm not going into the office, 30+ if I am. Need to make myself "presentable", pack some food, make a to go coffee. When I'm able to just snack and make coffee during downtime waiting for replies etc at the office it's so much easier, I get another hour of sleep if I need it...

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