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Pardoned Jan. 6 rioter shot dead while resisting arrest during traffic stop: police

www.rawstory.com Pardoned Jan. 6 rioter shot dead while resisting arrest during traffic stop: police

A Jan. 6 rioter pardoned by President Donald Trump was shot dead Sunday in Indiana after resisting arrest, Indiana State Police said.A deputy with the Jasper County Sheriff's Department pulled over Matthew Huttle, 42, of Hobart, Indiana, around 4:15 p.m. Sunday, according to Fox 59.The deputy attemp...

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Why in the fuck are we suddenly cheering extrajudicial killing just because, for once, it wasn't someone from our side?
... Oh, yeah okay, it wasn't someone from our side. For once.
- Play stupid games; win stupid prizes. He had a gun and resisted arrest. They're the ones who promoted this society and tough guy police in the first place. People see some poetic karma.
  Sorry bud, I'm not losing sleep over this one.
  
  FAFO is the new ACAB, got it.
  
  Me neither. Doesn't mean it should be celebrated.
- Nah. It's because justice was subverted and karma came in with steel chair to correct things.
  Pardons used to be used (usually) terribly to forgive rich assholes who made large campaign contributions... that was awful and I hate it.
  In this case the recipients literally tried to overthrow the government... it's beyond the fucking pale.
  I think that pardons are a terrible tool - if there is injustice that needs correction it should be done within the system so that everyone can benefit. Pardons, in their best use, just correct individual injustices while leaving the unjust system that caused the issue unaffected.
- The same reason we cheered when Luigi (allegedly) shot the UH CEO.
  Some people make the world a better place by leaving it.
  
  I'm not weeping over this asshole dying, it's just tough to cheer for vigilante justice when... well, when its the police doing it.
  
  I definitely get where you're coming from. But the judicial system has so completely failed us (bullshit interpretations of laws, pushing right-wing jurisprudence, ignoring obvious corruption of SCOTUS justices, not holding Trump responsible for fucking *anything") that it's hard to not be satisfied when one of these traitors gets any kind of justice.
- I agree, arrest the cop too.
- Have you ever heard the saying
  ""I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
  Happy to have read about this one :)
  
  IDGAF about this guy dying, good riddance, but I do care that so many people in this thread are openly cheering the cops having killed him. I'm aware of the irony, I just think the sheer amount of bloodlust on display here is pretty concerning. Do people think the cops like... meant to do this? They're just going to keep killing us, but they screwed up and got one of their guys this time.
- Because the judicial system has failed categorically. The only people getting beaten down by it are "on our side", that kinda means extrajudicial means of justice are the only ones left.
  Unrelated, but what do boots taste like? Are they as leathery as id imagine, or more earthy?
  
  So you're... wait, are you praising the cops here?
  
  No, im praising justice. It just so happens that for once in their lives, the cops somehow managed to actually achieve justice.
  To be clear, this person didnt need to die, but in the absence of any form of actual consequence this is the closest to justice were likely to see.
  
  There's a difference between praising cops and appreciating the irony of the guy who supported Trump, lover of police violence, dying in a police shoot-out.
  Similarly, on a historical note, I'm not going to praise mass-murderer Stalin for killing Nazis to save his own ass, but I sure as hell am not going to condemn him for it.
  
  Sure, and the irony in the original post is as obvious as it is in scubus' comment. They seem to present this - an extrajudicial killing by the police, the enforcement arm of the judicial system - as an example of the extrajudicial justice we must rely on since the judicial system has categorically failed us. It just doesn't make sense (and it has nothing to do with my initial comment)
  
  What should we rely on instead to stop these extremely violent people who got a full pardon? Because as far as I can tell, the only way they will be stopped is if they go up against the fascist cops.
  That's not praising the cops, that's saying there's no one else. Because there is no one else.
  
  Squiddy, are you seriously saying our only hope is the cops? I know you love arguing against things but if that's what you sincerely believe you have lost your damn mind.
  
  It's called fighting fire with fire.
  Again, what should we rely on instead? You didn't answer.
  
  You know I'm usually game to bat the birdie of argumentation around with you, but just... not right now, man. Not about this.
  I'm genuinely glad you managed to get out with you and yours, but the rest of us that are still stuck here are busy trying to figure out how to actually deal with this. More than 10% of my students are trans this year and around half have no-contact orders filed for their immediate family. Where the fuck are they supposed to go? IDK, but if we don't figure it out they are SOL. So I'm begging you, just for a little bit, please just stop pulling this on people here. We're all scared, and the shit you do like this really, really doesn't help anyone but you feel better.
  
  For the third time, what should be relied on instead?
  You haven't answered, which makes me think you have absolutely no idea. Being rude to me is not an answer.
  Sometimes you use Stalin to fight Hitler. That doesn't make Stalin the good guy.
  I won't be holding my breath for you actually giving an alternative.
  
  Is... that what you want from this? Me to admit I don't know how anyone I care about is going to survive this? Well damn, you sure picked up on the subtext there, way to figure it out squiddy! You sure sussed this one out!
  Go hug your kid, you utter utter jackass.

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