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Tim Walz says he may run for president in 2028 despite failure of Harris campaign

www.independent.co.uk Tim Walz says he may run for president in 2028 despite failure of Harris campaign

‘If the circumstances are right, in 2028...I’ll do it,’ the former Democrat VP hopeful said

Summary

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Kamala Harris’ 2024 running mate, has suggested he may run for president in 2028.

Reflecting on the Democrats’ loss to Donald Trump and JD Vance, he admitted: “A large number of people did not believe we were fighting for them in the last election – and that’s the big disconnect.”

Walz said his life experience, rather than ambition, would guide his decision.

Though his VP campaign was marred by gaffes, he remains open to running if he feels prepared.

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The moderates who were supposed to swoop in and save Kamala pointedly didn’t.
kamala had 75 million votes, to the 77 million that trump got.
If anybody fucked up the election it was the hardline commies or super aggressive left leaning people that refused to vote for kamala because of whatever silly reason they had.
IDK why people on the internet are willingly this fucking stupid. Evidently looking at the biden results, there were about 7-8 million more votes than kamala received, which is considerably more inline with what you would expect had younger voters actually, well, voted.
You would literally need to be on fucking crack to take anything else away from the results of these recent elections. IF ANYTHING, the obvious answer is that the younger voting block NEEDS to go and vote, because historically, they don't.
TL;DR if you didn't already pick this up from basic civics knowledge, the vast majority of the voterbase is going to vote for "whoever is on the ticket this time" that's why trump even gets traction at all, maybe 10-20% of his voter base actually cares about him in any substantive manner. It's the same for the dems, 75% of the base is people who will vote for WHOEVER gets put on the primary ticket, some of those are going to be more moderate though, and if you run someone like bernie, they will pull out or switch support, which is one of the risks you take when running a more hardline candidate.
Trump was just able to viciously mobilize his segment of the population against the republican voter base (who are historically known to behave like this)
We do not have this advantage on the dem side, we literally have to mobilize the youth, that's the ONE thing that can save us.
- Voter turnout in these elections was lower than in the 2020 elections
  
  yeah, primarily because you can't vote by mail in the 2024 election, where as you could in the 2020 election, enfranchising more people to go out and vote, and historically, it's not republicans that struggle to vote, it's the democrats.
  
  I still think it was voters showing their protest against the Israeli Genocide. I mean, I voted for Harris, but ffuuuuuuckk, all she had to do was say she'd at least try to find another way other than selling weapons.
  
  i'm not really convinced it was a significant enough margin to outpace the usual no show voter rolls. Historically we've had issues with turnout, and when it gets easier, more people vote, when it gets harder less people vote. I really don't think something that seems to really explicitly mobilize people under the age of 25 and above the age of 18 would be a very significant voter block to begin with. There's probably more people in there, but you're talking about people who are ethnically arab, and i wouldn't necessarily count those as those are going to be opposed to pretty much anything you do in the middle east regarding israel.
  Someone would have to do some actual polling or research to find out whether or not it had a significant effect, but i'm betting it wasn't. It probably had something to do with it, but literally every campaign has these 1% base issues, it's literally unavoidable.
- If everyone voted mainline Trump still would have won the election. Greens got 860000, while the Libertarians got 650000 and RFK got 750000.
- Snarks over "basic civics knowledge" in tl:dr longer than actual post.
  Rails about the popular vote in a nation using an electoral collage.
  
  Rails about the popular vote in a nation using an electoral collage.
  we use both the popular vote, and the electoral vote in presidential elections. Popular vote doesn't actually contribute to anything other than demonstration public sentiment, very clearly.
  The electoral vote primarily fucks with the house and congress, since it's on the same level, it does also elect the president, but that's usually irrelevant, as the popular vote generally tracks with that.
- left leaning people that refused to vote for kamala because of whatever silly reason they had
  we literally have to mobilize the youth, that’s the ONE thing that can save us.
  The youth think centrists are useless traitorous war criminal arseholes. You think you can talk down to progressives but somehow get the youth vote? You're on crack.
  
  Didn't 'the youth' break for trump in historic proportions compared to previous elections? The males, at the very least.
  
  sort of, this is like running a trial on whether "murder is bad" and being surprised when somebody answers "no" even though it was an option you gave them.
  the youth follows the same trends seen in older demographics, but is still consistently dem/left leaning over all. This is nothing new, and i'm not sure why anybody is really talking about it. If anything, the strongest indicator we have for who you vote for is going to be age group, and then minority/ethnic status.
  
  Harris lost 6% of youth (under 30). Largely because dems ignored the economy and jobs concerns, according to NPR. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/07/g-s1-33331/unpacking-the-2024-youth-vote-heres-what-we-know-so-far
  
  Ah, so it wasn't that they voted more for trump, just that there was a shift towards him from a solidly democrat lean before... and a huge one in terms of males (41% to 56%, looking at that article), like I said?
  
  The youth think centrists are useless traitorous war criminal arseholes. You think you can talk down to progressives but somehow get the youth vote? You’re on crack.
  yeah, that's the meme. That's the problem. People are pretending like it's the 65 year old life long dem voters that are fucking us over, but it's realistically going to be the youth, who mostly don't vote, and when they do, often not productively.

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