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Last week's assassination of Minnesota's Democrat former House Speaker was the logical sequel to that of the United Healthcare CEO

Those who cheered on the latter murder should now be examining their consciences.

The historical record is very clear: in politics, violence begets violence. This story is only beginning and it may not end well for America.

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Hard pass. Dude was a far right extremist judging by his views who was radicalized into ending a political opponent for "his team" while the other was due to the crushing pressure of the uncaring and unhelpful health care industry. Completely different and I award you no points.
- Yeah, but OP thinks they're very clever
- I don't think you understand OP's point. They aren't saying that the motivations are equally valid, they are saying that political violence of any kind will always escalate into further and wider violence.
  
  Luigi's violence was not political. Full stop.
  
  If it is perceived as political by a faction, then it is political.
  FYI, saying "full stop" out loud doesn't automatically make a statement true.
  
  It is factually not political. This isn't about politics in any way. Thats propaganda that has made you think it is. Everyone deserves healthcare. Nobody deserves to be squeezed like a nearly empty roll of toothpaste in their times of need.
  Likewise, you claiming some people perceived it as political also doesnt make your statement true.
  
  C'mon man, sure you can use a specific semantic definition of "political" to make your point, but in the real world politics bleeds into almost everything.
  The healthcare system in the US is incredibly political, through direct government policy but also the government's influence on capitalist systems that drive profit over people.
  But also, the people who "cheered" Luigi's actions are generally seen as left aligned politically, its viewed in the broader context of anti-capitalism. So if right wingers see what they believe to be leftists assassinating capitalists, many of them are going to view it as a political act. It doesn't matter that you don't agree with their assessment, and it doesn't matter what Luigi's original intent was, if that's how they see it.
  
  There seems to be some kind of difference in the meaning of "political".
  I offer the definition from the Oxford Dictionary:
  adjective
  relating to the government or public affairs of a country.
  The idea that everyone deserves healthcare is itself political, it pertains to how a country should be run. It is also not a universal view; many people disagree that people do in fact deserve healthcare.
  Luigi Mangione's act was indeed very political. It is an eruption of the view that all people in the USA deserve healthcare and that the private system is depriving people of this right.
  
  then what was it? was he trying to make a point of some sort? the whole deny, depose, ect writen on the bullet casings?
  was it simple murder? because if so I doubt he would've written a manifesto about it
  
  Can you show me where his actions supported a particular party? Affordable healthcare is not a political party.
  
  physically fighting against and killing a member of a large power structure like this is a political act. There doesn't need to be an organized political party on the other end of this for it to be political
  for example, the 2020 BLM protests, were those political acts? what political party did they support?
  
  Bud, literally all of society is political.
  Politics is just "group decision making". If it involves a group of people acting collectively to make decisions about something, then it's political.

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