Edward Snowden releases new message: "You have been warned"
Edward Snowden releases new message: "You have been warned"
Edward Snowden warned the public about OpenAI after the artificial intelligence company announced a former NSA director as a new board member.
Edward Snowden wrote on social media to his nearly 6 million followers, "Do not ever trust @OpenAI ... You have been warned," following the appointment of retired U.S. Army General Paul Nakasone to the board of the artificial intelligence technology company.
Snowden, a former National Security Agency (NSA) subcontractor, was charged with espionage by the Justice Department in 2013 after leaking thousands of top-secret records, exposing the agency's surveillance of private citizens' information.
In a Friday morning post on X, formerly Twitter, Snowden reshared a post providing information on OpenAI's newest board member. Nakasone is a former NSA director, and the longest-serving leader of the U.S. Cyber Command and chief of the Central Security Service. He retired from the NSA, a position he held since 2018, in February.
Snowden wrote in an X post, "They've gone full mask-off: do not ever trust @OpenAI or its products (ChatGPT etc.) There is only one reason for appointing an @NSAGov Director to your board. This is a willful, calculated betrayal of the rights of every person on Earth." He concluded the post, writing, "You have been warned."
Newsweek making it sound like Snowden is a James Bond villain issuing pronouncements from his skull-shaped island lair.
98Fake new always trying to get the clickbait up the algo chain
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Posts like these really bring out the Nextdoor app type lemmy people. Everything's a conspiracy.
Point is it doesn't matter who they add to OpenAI, OpenAI is already a problem. There is no conspiracy, you missed the boat. Your data is already being scraped, traded and sold to the Nth degree by corporations, and the government just goes ahead and buys it instead of forming yet another agency to scrape it all themselves (yay, privatization?). OpenAI is just the next level of the same. Doesn't matter who is on the board, the damage has already been done. So Snowden is way behind the times and frankly his commentary is irrelevant - or at least nothing that the news hasn't been complaining about with the rampant theft of IP by AI makers for the last couple of years or more.
93Snowden just said that they had gone "mask-off" - so I think it was just aimed at those who still refuses to believe it.
28exactly, anyone trusting AI companies in general beforehand and being swayed by this one statement from Snowden, doesn’t understand the technology or environment enough to be effectively skeptical in the first place.
12Thing is that Snowden isn't really a figure I think most people would listen to. I think he's cut off from any valuable information that would offer him anything groundbreaking to reveal and I think he's probably somewhat isolated in his current situation.
Edit: really? You downvoters just Snowden fans? Care to actually offer up a reason you think my comment isn’t right? Snowden is hiding out in a foreign country that has to keep him at arm’s length, trot him out when he’s useful, but not offer him access to anything actually important.
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What are Nextdoor app type people?
3Every "bang" they hear outside from a car backfire is gunfire. Every "boom" sound is a potential bomb. Every terrorist or rapist wants to visit your boring suburban neighborhood and is creeping around in broad daylight walking down the sidewalk. Every helicopter flying over is something nefarious. The government is out to get you. A police car mentioned going anywhere with the lights on must mean a horrific murder or "Praise jesus lord protect our police" followed by a blue line flag pic.
Every post warrants unsolicited derogatory political commentary, i.e. "Nice day outside..." followed by "Those fucking lying sleepy joe democrats are full of shit about climate change it's fine outside!" Or some unsolicited "praise Jesus its a nice day you wouldn't have the sun earth and stars if it weren't for Jesus praise God you're all sinners." with a crapton of emojis.
It's an awful place. I briefly tried it for yard sales and looking for services like tree trimming, but it's not worth it.
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You'd think the government couldn't just pay others to do stuff they're specifically not supposed to do themselves.
2Yeah who is this "Edward Snowden" anyway??! /s
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Strong down vote ratio...
Can't tell if "AI" bros or the spooks are butthurt today.
77There are a significant number of people who also really hate Snowden for various reasons (he's a traitor, he ran to Russia, etc.) and don't care whether or not he's making a good point.
65I always find it hilarious for the reasons people hate snowden, like I'm sure it's pretty well known by know that he didn't choose Russia, the US forced him to become stuck there when they voided his passport, also idk how they consider revealing illegal crimes against the people as being a trader
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AI bros. Most of their investment is wrapped up in OpenAI being glorified
36Alternate explanation, from the normies: it's a purely speculative claim with minimal argument.
12There is deff speculative element to it. We dont have view of the inner workings and unlikely to see it besides bread crumbs that get leaked over years and astroturfed by the fake news.
People still relying on propaganda networks do have weird idea that they knows what's up.. I guess it is easier to be simping for dudes in power after all. Makes you sleep better at night.
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I guess someone here said that Snowden is behind the times and his comments are not relevant? And try to downplaying something bigger that Snowden might suggest.
5Yeah I don't get it either
3How do you see that?
2I think because they're on Kbin?
3The ratio?
24/150.
When I commented that it was more like 15/40
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There is a surprisingly large amount of bot humpers on this site.
-2I would downvote simply because this type of community, "fuck whatever" exists solely as an echo chamber of internet hate train and is unlikely to ever produce anything of value.
I would claim that it's better to downvote to prevent other people from finding extremely biased posts from a one sided community such as this. There is no arguing in good faith here, only tribalism.
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"do not ever trust [insert large corporation]"
FTFY
25I asked AI what the torque spec was for my valve cover bolts and ruined my engine. 70ft pounds! I pulled the threads out at 20ft/lbs!
just kidding. im not that stupid.
23Welcome to Large Language Monitoring
21This actually makes me think OpenAI is a straight up scam; this is the Elizabeth Holmes strategy.
8I'd honestly be more worried about the NSA abusing OpenAI and not the inherent data collection which they already have access to anyway.
What if they target someone and give them a fake recipe for potato salad which turns out to be lethal.
Okay that's a dumb example, but do you get what I mean? They can arbitrarily send, insert, or delete data to a specific target if they want to. Would not be surprised if they already made their own in house tool for this like BeEF XSS to handle a bunch of targets at once.
I know the easy stupid solution to this is not to trust AI output in the first place, but people are lazy and dumb too.
2How naive would you have to be to trust them anyway?
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1These appointments of credibility come with the appointees “Rolodex” and associations.
I can get in rooms you can’t because of who I know and who I’ve worked with, even if I’m not relevant to that work. I am relatively a nobody in comparison.
These appointees know who to know and who to talk to and more importantly are friendly and on a first name basis with them.
It’s more than just “clout”
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I didn't trust Open AI before. But the the Kremlin signalling disapproval of it makes me slightly less distrustful.
Sure they still suck, but at least they're not on Putin's side.
-11This is the correct answer whenever this Russian intelligence asset opens his mouth.
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This kind of rhetoric is for conservatives / Trump supporters / conspiracy theorists.
The way he implies there's an agenda behind the hire without actually articulating it, the way he leads you on and then assumes you'll take the implication for granted, an unearned "this is a very bad thing!", capped with a cryptic "You've been warned!"
-17worked at the nsa
hired to work for a company that scrubs the internet for data
Yeah definitely just conspiracy theory bs. Thanks, cop!
13I'm not sure what your credentials are in the surveillance "business" but I bet he's seen, and experienced, even contributed to, sadly, a lot more than a random stranger on the Internet.
I don't like that he hints as scenario rather than being clear about it. I don't like that a lot of his posts are political and seeding doubts about institutions... yet, again, based on his CV, he's seen a lot more than anybody I know and thus his perspective, even his warnings, do matter.
I'll still draw my own conclusions, and keep learning about the topic, both the technology and who funds it, but yes I'll be more wary since his tweet.
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This guy worked at the NSA for 15 months total over a decade ago. He's been an internet warrior in Russia since then. I'm not sure Snowden's got the credentials to make him a good source of info anymore.
-29Maybe, but he's not wrong that appointing a former NSA director to the board of OpenAI sounds really bad.
48Dude's an American hero!
Maybe you don't have the credentials to make an accurate assessment of his credentials
36Yeah that comment got a weird vibe to it... As if the poster is glowing?
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Watch Citizen Four documentary or read his book if you want to go beyond the internet surface, you'll be better armed to understand his credentials.
6Your credential though? Having thumbs. Well done.
0And I am not giving information to news outlets
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NSA really mad he proved the conspiracies right.
0Don't really need the credentials here. The publicity is more important.
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