The Ten Commandments must be displayed in Louisiana classrooms under requirement signed into law
The Ten Commandments must be displayed in Louisiana classrooms under requirement signed into law
Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom. Republican Gov.
That’s a prima facie violation of separation of church and state
114You're ignoring that the law states that the Commandments are “foundational documents of our state and national government.”
As you may be aware, it was very important to the Founders that people have no other gods and not make graven images. The U.S. Constitution specifically forbids taking the Lord's name in vain. And of course, it is required to keep the Sabbath holy.
No coveting, either, whether it be houses, wives, or animals. Those are right out.
46Separation of church and state is not technically a law. However, SCOTUS ruled against exactly this in Stone v. Graham. My fear is that states are doing this to bait it back to our newly conservative SCOTUS.
More than 40 years ago, in Stone v. Graham, the Supreme Court overturned a similar state statute, holding that the First Amendment bars public schools from posting the Ten Commandments in classrooms. No other state requires the Ten Commandments to be displayed in public schools.
7It’s historical …. Our historical right to own slaves
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I'd be surprised if the Satanic Temple didn't already have legislation in the works to address this.
57Reminds me, gotta donate to those guys
33Join us! It’s the best money i spend
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Way to invite all the trolls to display other religious iconography in your schools, Louisiana. The Satanist Creed, The Pastafarian Recipe for Enlightenment, the Festivus Rules for Stating Grievances... all is fair now.
40The real answer is to display all the other hundreds of Jewish laws in the classroom too, in the "spirit of the law". Have a class lesson on Jewish law and its interpretation. Send the kids home asking questions about why cheeseburgers are immoral.
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I applaud your time traveling prowess, Louisiana, even if you're only capable of going backwards.
30Unconstitutional state laws can't be upheld just because a state goes bananas.
25What if the SCOTUS has gone bananas at the same time?
11Amendment would come first.
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Legislators should somehow bear the costs of the lawsuits brought about by clearly unconstitutional laws, sort of like SLAPP-back laws.
But it is an interesting question I’d like to know more about. Does anyone know of good comparative religion sources based on core laws? People in general seem to have similar morals that I often wondered whether modern religions are all that different. Of course they have different rituals and appearances, but are the core laws any different? If other religions have something equivalent to the Ten Commandments, how much overlap is there?
19If I lived in Louisiana, I'd demand that this was posted right next to it. I'm not even a believer (I'm apatheist, FWIW). But The Satanic Temple just doesn't have the shock value that it used to. Use the real thing; go for maximum shock value.
18I also demand the 8 "I rather you didn't" of the Pastafarians also be next to this.
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What problem is this even trying to solve? What a waste of everyone's time.
14They just want to force their religion of others through politics. There's nothing worse than the mixing of politics and religion.
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How does Louisiana feel about beating the hell out of kids? I wondered so searched and results were primarily about kids being killed by beating. Not quite what I wanted, another search said Lousisana was rankied 49 in child well being. Yeah, that's a little closer, but still not what I wanted. Per the Bible, you're supposed to strike a kid with a rod to save their souls from sheol (which is another word for hell). Search says it's Proverbs 23:14, though I'm not gonna look, there are several different variants. My question is, since the bible actually says to beat the hell out of kids, has Lousiana immunized parents who do so? Or is this just more religious BS? Shove the 10 commandments down kids throats but still jail parents who beat the sheol out of kids? Legal contradictions.
Edit: Found it: Louisiana Child Abuse Laws - FindLaw
It seems it's illegal to beat the hell out of kids, but that's pretty much what the bible tells parents to do. Posting the 10 commandments is some kind of police state entrapment.
13Guess it's time to display this in every classroom then: https://www.bible-tencommandments.com/10-C-Languages/10-C-Arabic.htm
7Or just the 10 commandments translated to the language taught in language classes. Seeing the phrases drilled down into your head for years in another language is interesting.
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Elected GOP leaders get a waiver from following them
6THE Ten Commandments?
Can we make new ones? Like, I've blown that one about shouting Jehovah in frustration, so we should just ditch it - too hard - and go with "don't be a dick -- wil Wheaton" - WITH the attribution - and maybe swap out some others too.
My neighbor's wife has a pretty donkey, if I'm honest, and I'm told gawking at it is verboten if it's also his. It's a lot of math, I think.
5You know who probably lobbies for this hot, unconstitutional garbage behind closed doors? Not the religious right.
Lawyers.
HB71 should be called The
Shithole StateLouisiana Attorney Employment Act, because this is going to need a ton of lawyers.Lawyers to sue about its unconstitutionality.
Lawyers to defend its constitutionality.
Lawyers that represent Islam, Pastafarianism, Hinduism, etc. that want all aboard this state-promotion-of-religion train.
5Quick! Can someone PLEASE mow down a bunch of 6 Year Olds with Guns so I can PRETEND to care about the Constitution again?
4It's still (moderately) difficult to find a bunch of 6 year olds with guns. But the way things are going, I'm sure that will be remedied before long.
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Supreme court time!
2I’m sure the guy with the appeal to heaven flag will get right on this.
7If anything, they'll confirm that this is now a national requirement.
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