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EU charges Microsoft with 'abusive' bundling of Teams and Office, breaching antitrust rules

www.cnbc.com EU charges Microsoft with 'abusive' bundling of Teams and Office, breaching antitrust rules

The European Union on Tuesday accused Microsoft of breaching antitrust rules with the "abusive" bundling of its Teams and Office products.

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- Do AppleID requires credit card to dev on the platform in any way (xcode)
  
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  You don't require a credit card to develop, you require a credit card for publish.
  
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  I have a Mac set up at work for CI testing with no Apple ID or payment associated with it. Can’t use the App Store but I don’t need to for the C/C++ build tools and anything from homebrew. Updates install without issue.
  
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- It is for your own good tho....
  
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  They are just socialist u see. Its OUR own good :)
  
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Me: “Didn’t they unbundle those already?”

Article: “Last year the tech giant unbundled Teams from Microsoft 365 in an effort to quash antitrust concerns by the EU, but the European Commission said the changes were “insufficient to address its concerns.”

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- So they did it, but purposely didn't do it well enough. Next time it's a 10% fine.
  
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- Just a default install of 365 and the only thing that popped up on the screen was teams. It was a separate uninstaller, which was nice I guess? But you have to dig through the 30 language un installers for 365 to find it.
  
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I hate MS Teams so much.

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- Hey, do you want to open it in the browser, or teams? Both are pieces of shit. That's it. What other option where you thinking of?
  
  Oh you wanna project so everyone can see? Ok here's full screen! Oh yeah, we can show those employee icons bigger! Oh you mean full screen! Here's this option, we just need to hide 70% of your screen. There! Tiny screen full mode!
  
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  Ugh. The browser then!
  
  "Hey, you should try using Microsoft edge! CLICK THERE TO TRY and here to not. Are you sure? Really? Last chance. Ok, for now. "
  
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  In my work machine, mine has a special feature when someone shares their screen during a call and you go full-screen - the extreme audio lag feature.
  
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Now do one for One Drive downloading files from your desktop by default on Windows 11. It's default opt-out now. So until you notice it's uploading everything to the cloud and stop it... You're getting no notification about the behavior or a choice to enable it in the first place. Just gobbles your data to the cloud without asking.

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- Since the user did not approve it, it sounds like mass copyright violation to me.
  
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They should charge them for making Teams in the first place.

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The EU is awesome.

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In the past few years, my workplace has used Webex, Zoom and Teams. I definitely hate that we're using Teams now because the others are better when it comes to meetings. Teams is unusable for me half the time while the others just worked. Lag spike during the call? Now the microphone doesn't work. Or it will work but no one can understand you while you talk.

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Now do Edge!

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- Please do Chrome first, though. At least Edge has introduced solid features, whereas Google has a history of limiting other browsers on its websites to promote Chrome.
  
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- Last year, I heard so much about the EU forcing Microsoft to allow users to choose a browser and a search engine.
  
  Did that not happen?
  
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  It's happened repeatedly: Happened in the US about 25 years ago with Internet Explorer, but here we are!
  
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