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How to reliably(!) exclude files from a list in tar?

This is bothering me for years now, my backup script always takes everything with it, taking forever to finish.

I initially used the --exclude option, but this is rather restrictive, cluttered the script and still had the excluded directories.
Then i discovered -X/--exclude-from but same result here, weird globbing and still fails.
So i hacked a negative list via fd's --ignore-file and tar -T/--files-from together. But tar still includes files and directories not on the fucking files.tmp.

So i'm not sure if it is a bug in Arch's GNU tar or if it's maybe a parameter in the wrong position, tar can be removed there. This is my current code

# tar -cf - -X "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME"/backup/ignore "$INPUT" -P

fd . -Hi --ignore-file "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME"/backup/ignore "${INPUT}" > "$_tmpfile"
tar -cf - --verbatim-files-from --files-from="$_tmpfile" -P \
	|pv -tapes "$_fssize" \
	|compress >"${OUTPUT}.$_ext"

INPUT is $HOME in this case.

And if anyone has a solution that works on busybox tar as well...

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5 comments
  • --exclude works reliable for me. can you give us an example of an --exclude and the file name that tar outputs when adding it?

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  • I don't know what fd does, but at a guess maybe what you're missing is that tar includes all the files in directories you give it? So if you exclude 'foo/bar' but include 'foo' then foo/bar will be in your tar file.

    What I do is basically tar cf `ls ~ | grep -v $files_to_exclude` but if you want to exclude something that isn't a top-level directory you'd need to get slightly more fancy.

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    • ...more fancy such as using tar -X, which works for me. I'd never actually tried it before. The 'weird globbing' it uses is regular expressions, which are worth learning how to use. Run grep "$expression" $_tmpfile where $expression is a line from your exclude file to see which files it's going to match and exclude.

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  • I use tar with a an external file for exclude and include files on my custom backup script. There is a --wildcards option, which lets you use * (star) to exclude everything from a directory. The command looks like this:

    tar --create \
    	--zstd \
    	--verbose \
    	--restrict \
    	--force-local \
    	--wildcards \
    	--exclude-backups \
    	--exclude-from "${exclude_file}" \
    	--files-from "${include_file}" \
    	--file "${archive_file}"
    

    And the include_file is a simple text file with newline separated paths. It looks like this:

    /home/tuncay/.var/app/io.gpt4all.gpt4all/cache/*
    /home/tuncay/.var/app/io.gpt4all.gpt4all/data/*
    
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  • Thanks!

    I save it for now, until i work on it again. Possibly the wildcards thing. And that tar includes files of folders given too, from someone else (how to work with that).

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  • How to reliably(!) exclude files from a list in tar?

    You delete the entire file because the format and tools are hard to deal with for basic operations like this one. :)

    Just kidding... but we know there's some truth to it.

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