T-Mobile In Trouble After It Decides To Build Cell Tower That Is 'Not Safe' For Residents
T-Mobile In Trouble After It Decides To Build Cell Tower That Is 'Not Safe' For Residents
T Mobile is legally pursuing the Wanaque planning board for illegally stopping the cell tower operation by rejecting the building application
Ahhh more "health" quacks, I wonder if they also believe the COVID vaccines have 5g chips in them.
The town felt the residents would be 'unsafe' due to radio frequencies and rejected the company's notion of building the tower on the land.
102$5 says when they build it anyway everyone starts complaining about health problems, then they say they haven't even turned it on yet
84They've definitely done that before, dunno if it was deliberately. They must have somewhat of an idea how long it takes for nocebo to kick in with the local village idiots, if it's short enough it could actually be a rather good idea to make waiting a bit a general policy. Tank some mild capital and opportunity cost to prevent having to battle in court and the town newspaper? Sounds like a win to me.
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Lol don't tell them about all the radio frequencies around them all the time
69Tell them how much power the TV and radio broadcast towers put out and watch them freak out. The analog TV stations ran even higher power than the digital ones do now.
13Wait ‘til they learn what the sun is putting out.
11They're beaming electromagnetic waves into your eyes, man!
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Ackshually, being too close to high power radio frequencies isn't safe. I remember at one base I was stationed at in Afghanistan, there was a smoke spot we all used to take breaks at. For some reason, I started developing really bad headaches and feeling kind of nauseous. I figured I was just acclimating to the local climate or something. After a few weeks, I was up on our building installing one of our satcom dishes on top of it when I noticed something. Right on the other side of the fence of that smoke area, was a ~2m high powered dish pointing just above above where the smoke area was. I pointed this out to the Norwegians that ran the camp and the break area was promptly moved, lol.
But seriously, I do not understand the anti-5G nutters.
36FCC already has regulations on maximum power. These emitters are usually dozens of feet off the ground as well.
13Yeah, I was 25B cross trained with 25U and the mobile sat dishes needed cordoned off a certain degree area in front to not walk in front of. And the humvvee antennas on high power could burn you if you touched them while transmitting.
7Hell the high power WiFi equipment‡ I installed at my Grandma's house had warnings about keeping a few feet clear of it when powered on due to health concerns and that's just WiFi equipment. I can't imagine the dosage of gnarly from a 2m powered dish.
‡ I installed that equipment because she wanted WiFi on all 10 acres of her property and she didn't want me to install more stations around her property. Now she has the broadcast equipment in her garage with a tape line on the floor like it's a Goddamned radiation research facility lol
6The higher the frequency, the worse that is. So standing very close to an HF antenna that only broadcasts up to like say 30 megahertz is different than standing next to a 700 megahertz cell phone antenna, which is different from standing next to a 2.5 gigahertz cell phone antenna. The reasoning for that is due to power levels and wavelength of the radio signal itself.
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uncarrier only until we buyout sprint and drop the "un".
29I really wish the government would do their goddamn jobs regarding monopolies. Instead they are just accepting bribes and facilitating the mergers.
43Look into the current grocery monopoly in the making. Kroger is attempting to purchase Albertsons/Safeway.
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Mind crossposting this to !t_mobile@lemmy.ml?
Also, they will lose. The FCC has said that the companies can build towers where they are needed for coverage. They might have to make it look like a tree or something, but they cannot be rejected from building it.
28With the supreme Court overturning the Chevron decision last week, I'm not so sure that any federal regulatory bodies have much power anymore unless there's a specific law passed by Congress. That's what made that decision so dangerous, because the same applies to the FDA now regarding drugs and food.
35A good overview of the circumstances of the recent Chevron decision.
Please note the final paragraph. Koch's goal is exactly this: bringing cases in front of the Supreme Court that, if won, would cause grave disturbances.
27You know, that's a good point. I didn't even think of that. But you're right.
8This isn't regulatory. The auctions companies bid on and win have provisions in them that require companies to utilize the spectrum in X years. They must supply coverage if they bought the spectrum; they can't sit on it.
2Be surprised if the courts cause problems with this given that cellphones are 911 devices and a means of making government emergency announcements. Those typical override the wishes of the snti-vaxx Karens of planning boards
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They are missing out on a chance to get their free 5G magnetic mark of the beast skin
19Build it, don't turn it on, watch all the residents complain about new ailments and conditions caused by the 5G.
Reveal that it's never even been powered to really hammer home their ignorant bullshit.
The cognitively impaired should not be able to do this sort of shit.
16The planning board's decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation.
Because that surely would be the only cell tower in town.
16I wonder what the wifi access in the school is like?
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This is hilarious, a win-win in my book. I get to laugh at the ridiculous claim about radio waves frying people's brains or whatever, and at the same time, every day of stalling hurts an exploitive POS telecom company.
I'm rooting for the loonies! Protect our kids! You show those lizard people!
15Lol.
But T-Mobile is less bad the other telecoms. The enemy of my enemy and all that.
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Jesus, an entire town falling for unscientific bullshit.
It's also not like they're going to point the antennas straight down at the school. They have directionality. I bet not one RF engineer was consulted.
I'd like to walk these people through the school with an inductive amplifier probe and let them hear the 60hz hum and its harmonics permeating every hallway and classroom.
13That website was not safe for viewing
11Unless you view it with an adblocker, like a sane human would do. Looks perfectly normal for me.
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My 5G coverage isn't good, it may be time for another COVID shot.
10The planning board's decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation. The town felt the residents would be 'unsafe' due to radio frequencies and rejected the company's notion of building the tower on the land.
I mean, I think that the planning board is idiotic, but I don't see why T-Mobile cares enough to fight it. If they don't build it, okay. It looks like the school in question is right in the middle of town. Then Wanaque is going to have crummy cell coverage. Let them have bad cell coverage and build a tower somewhere else. It's not like this is the world's only place that could use better cell coverage. The main people who benefit from the coverage are Wanaque residents. Sure, okay, there's some secondary benefit to travelers, but if we get to the point that all the dead zones that travelers pass through out there are covered, then cell providers can go worry about places that are determined not to have have cell coverage.
If I were cell companies, I'd just get together with the rest of the industry and start publishing a coverage score for cities for cell coverage. Put it online in some accessible database format, so that when places like city-data.com put up data on a city, they also show that the city has poor cell coverage and that would-be residents are aware of the fact.
9A quick web search for third-party coverage information tells me that Wanaque has good coverage from Verizon and poor coverage from T-Mobile. It's easy to guess why T-Mobile might be motivated to change that situation.
10https://www.verizon.com/coverage-map/
This shows that Verizon has good coverage in part of Wanaque, moderate coverage in part, and no coverage in part.
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Speedtest.net bought a service that was doing this already sort of. I looked just now and I think it’s their “map” option on their mobile app. You need to switch between carriers to see coverage.
The tech was based off of manual speed tests and a background app that would measure coverage from a phone for a small area, about the size of 3 square acres.
2start publishing a coverage score for cities for cell coverage
Each of them has an internal one and since contractors bounce around it's like a wiki but slower.
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How does anyone become sensitive to a 5g wireless signal? I could see maybe z pscemaker or some kind brain stimulator device but just a bare bones corpus delecti would seem to be known early enough to decide not to live near the broadcaster
5How does anyone become sensitive to a 5g wireless signal?
Stupid and uneducated people not fit for modern society that get exposed to raw internet tend to be the most vulnerable group.
10Not enough attention as a child, wants to get on TV, cant accept that their shit diet and aging means they dont feel like a 21 year old anymore.
Maybe all three.
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Thank god I'm safe! And I will be dead and gone before it happens here. It's going to be decades before 5G is implemented where I live. Hell, 4G is spotty and unreliable even yet today. Even 3G was terrible.
4My issue with Verizon 5g is that it is worse than their old Edge service.
5g on my signal bar essentially means "doesn't work." It wasn't an issue when I could turn off the 5g radio, but Samsung pushed an update that removed that option.
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Ok now everyone put your magnetized needles in the Styrofoam and then make them float in the water to reveal where magnetic north is!
Ahh teacher... Magnetic north is dancing metal rock right now.
4It's those got damn lizard people
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