Clarence Thomas takes aim at a new target: Eliminating OSHA

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I have the sound of this stuck in my head now, thanks.

Last year, WNYC had an episode of their More Perfect podcast all about Thomas and, more or less, how he got that way.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolabmoreperfect/episodes/clarence-x

His donors point and he attacks

If you want an in-depth profile on how Thomas’ political views are shaped, check out the PBS Frontline documentary on him.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wJuRx1wARUk&si=TCeumVNzVZICsNg7

Coming soon: the freedom to be maimed by corporations cutting corners on dangerous equipment design and safety equipment provision.

Not speaking to policy but law, he's probably hinting that this is a violation of the non delegation doctrine.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nondelegation_doctrine

They got him cheap, the man is a bargain whore… actually, I take that back, I wouldn’t want to insult prostitutes.

Probably like 100k, which is pennies to them.

I hope he gets on a private jet with 5 other justices and some of his billionaire buddies for a trip to some tropical resort only for the plane to get shot down through a president's official act suddenly go down, totally unexpectedly.

With our luck, it'll happen after Trump is reelected

That is the plan. Clarence Thomas is owned by billioners parasites that want a feudalism system in their corporations.

Ah, but the police force got much better and stronger since back in those days so good look going back to protesting to get those rights back,

Plus splitting people over insane conspiracies keeps them weak and easier to control so Americans are less likely to stick together and fight the real enemy: the billionaires.

I suppose the American worker could wake up to the reality that the protection against utter abuse for no pay didn’t just appear out of thin air

Are you kidding? The Budweiser and Marlboro crowd will be told it is the fault of some brown people so they will double down on their hate and donations to elect a dictator who will "solve" their problems

Of course! That's what family values are all about! Praise the lord and pass the ammunition!

That took me a second LOL Well done!

Yes. But I am puzzled why the Ultras asked the supremes to end abortion. If I was an Ultra, I would have legalized public sex and drugs and tent cities. How does preventing abortion help the Ultras? Anyway, that's a piece of the puzzle that I can't understand well yet.

Eliminating the EPA, OSHA, animal protections, all these things fall under the Ultra "I'm loving it" package.

Speaking of good old days, I think we should bring slavery back, but only for Clarence.

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I volunteer Thomas to run a lathe and see what happens when safety regulations aren't enforced.

I did Asbestos removal for awhile years ago. I cannot imagine not having OSHA. The amount of crap companies get away with with OSHA around is already absurd.

I had no idea of this entity, but I work with enough similarly, highly nuanced public professionals that I recognize that the rapid and blind "immediately destroy all gubberment" approach will have widespread oh-holy-fuck consequenes if not just for the extensive brain vacuum potentially left in the wake of this type of growing mentality. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective.

If they believe congress shouldn't have the authority to delegate authority so broad then the way fix isn't to eliminate the delegation but to require that congress reviews the regulatory agencies to see if they're acting as according to their intent (yes there's risk of abuse for this too, like endless micromanaging, etc, this is just to defuse the constitutionality argument)

Just read a bunch of audit results and discuss relevant court cases involving the varies agencies in front of congress and let them rubberstamp it

I wanted to post this channel for a long list of reason, broken down in a forensic manner, as to why this is a bad idea, glad others were here, and thinking the same.

Rewriting the constitution is part of their plan but I very much doubt the changes they want to make are good for anyone but them.

I mean, the big philosophical divide between liberal and conservative judges is usually whether or not the constitution is a "living" document. That is, whether it can be interpreted through a modern lens, or if laws must be strictly limited by what is exactly written in the document.

I would argue that it's easily the former, since, one, they explicitly allow amendments to the Constitution, and, two, there is a session of the Bill of Rights where they basically say, "we can't possibly list all the rights that people are entitled to. This list is by no means comprehensive, and just because something isn't in here, it doesn't mean we've left it out on purpose."

I agree that the constitution is very flawed, and that we would probably be better off without it, but one thing they were very clear on: no kings. The Trump immunity ruling was not only legal nonsense, it was clearly not an originalist interpretation (what the conservatives claim to be.)

When you take into account all of the rulings that this current court has made, it's quite clear that they just start with the conclusion that they want, and reason backwards to get the justification. Once you're at that point, I'm not sure that it really matters what your legal system is based on; they're just doing make-em-ups anyway.

Ok your rant over? Good. If it was rewritten today it would be civilization ending levels of disaster. And you know what? OSHA is constitutional.

The conservatives agree with you and want to call for a new constitutional convention so that they have an opportunity to work in the project 2025 agenda directly into a new draft of the Constitution.

An important part of controlling state legislatures is to be able to get enough states to first call for the constitutional convention and then to control it. That's the most effective route to ensuring that the white, Christian, business first agenda is permanently enforced

Tons of the reasons given for why congress can do things don’t really make sense, like civil rights amendments were defended with the reasoning that congress can regulate interstate commerce, and segregation affects interstate commerce. IMO that doesn’t make sense, but everyone goes along with it because these regulations are obviously good. If we had a good constitution, we wouldn’t need to make these weird excuses to do things that are clearly necessary for the public wellbeing, but unfortunately we don’t, so we have to make do and have any decision we make be randomly struck down by the courts when they decide they don’t like it anymore.

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I used to argue that whoever was ultimately responsible for safety at a chemical plant should be required to have them and their family live close enough that if shot goes wrong, they'll definitely be among the worst effected.

But then I live within the greater Charleston, WV area, and there's a plant in a town called Institute here that makes and handles MIC, most notoriously known for being made less poisonous for use as pesticide and being the stuff that leaked and caused the Bhopal incident back when.

No, they make the rules and would never agree to that, just like they always vote to give themselves raises and amazing healthcare while fighting to prevent the rest of us from getting adequate pay or healthcare.

Clarence won't stop until he's been able to put one of his pubes on everyone's soda can

Ah, but presidential immunity is conferred at the discretion of the SCOTUS.

Seriously, they made themselves keepers of the power.

If he loses the election and doesn't use this new power to kill trump and all his lackies then I guess his presidency wasn't for "the preservation of this democracy"

Right out a fuckin window.

Nah, he js just doing the bidding of his corporate masters. He couldnt give a flying fuck about ideology, he just likes the money they hand him for doing this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/clarence-thomas-told-clerks-he-wants-to-make-liberals-miserable-2022-6%3famp

This isn't even blackmail, he's just a pathetic little bitch. If not for these interesting times, I might feel sorry for him

He was inspired by Trump's popularity showing that Americans are more easily manipulated than he ever dreamed.

This is my rub with Clarence in general. On paper I agree with a very hardline reading of the constitution cause what else is it there for. We're far too allergic to making constitutional amendments and laws and have built up a house of cards that gets toppled every time the administration changes.

However, practically speaking, there's too many actual lives depending on supreme court decisions and delegated regulations to wait for congress to do something about it (if they aren't stalled outright by lobbying and party opposition). If the overturning of such decisions is meant to light a fire under the ass of the legislative branch, it operates much too slowly to protect the vulnerable people who suffer in the interim. Delegation is the only reason we have a (relatively) safe and clean place to live.

The two party system has resulted in grid lock on anything pf actual value like codifying in law the things the SCOTUS has been rolling back. We’ve rested on our laurels for it to all be undone.

Is he sure he wants that if Trump gets into power?

We do have a problem with executive power creep so like there's a world where I'm on board for non-delegation but there just is a reality that some questions are too small, detailed, and nuanced to expect a new bill out of Congress each time.

So like setting new tariffs, should be a congressional action and it was improperly delegated. Determining whether a new ladder is safe for workers, can be delegated.

The solution to Amazon's recruitment problems: slavery. Just chain the suckers to the warehouse and you don't have to worry about them running away any more. And if one croaks from the heat, you won't even have to bother covering the body any more.

Killing chevron was the biggest step already. Now corpos just have to chip away with lawsuits.

He's still fucking around and it's doubtful he'll leave that stage, what are you talking about?

Has there been any consequences for him for his actions?

Hey, speaking as a construction worker, get fucked. OSHA keeps people like me alive. Just get fucked. I cannot express this passionately enough.

So does a worksite death or injury.

OSHA is better than dead workers littering the worksite.

You forgot this: /s.

At least I fuckin' hope so.

In case you're not just trying to harvest downvotes (hey, everyone needs a hobby); That's a stupid fucking take.

That is so completely insane. Do you know how many workplace injuries and deaths were eliminated because of things OSHA put in place?

You'll say that until you fall off a ledge without a guard rail

So does your mom.