Biden Confuses Kamala Harris for Trump, Zelenskiy for Putin at NATO Summit

"confuses" is different from "misspeaks" though…

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I know my bar has dropped a lot, but he spoke for an hour and fielded questions. He was pretty damn coherent, and knew what the fuck he was talking about defending his foreign policy decisions, etc. it kinda sucks all of that is boiled down to he said the wrong name.

I want him to step aside for another candidate. His "bad debate night" was scary as fuck. But this article is ridiculous.

he spoke confidently on a range of complex issues from the tax code and trade policy to Russia and the Israel-Hamas war.

BUT....

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- Were you and I watching the same presser? He had moments of brilliance, but his fumbles were apparent throughout the night.
  
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Don't disagree that he's embarrassingly old, but the gaffes were always part of the deal with Biden, going back to the 1990s.

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Yeah but he's managed to make the conversation about his fitness to govern rather than Trumps. That's quite a feat.

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Confusing your own VP for the opposition party’s candidate is not a gaffe.

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Yeah this is a bullshit headline. He said the wrong thing. Just way less concerning than what is implied.

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Well the headline isn't factually wrong, and no, 99% of any one actually watched the debate.

The headline was possible because of Biden. And honestly, this wasn't even his worst mistake of the press conference.

That god-awful final answer.. It was basically him saying he's too arrogant to step down in time for us to get a candidate into place that can win. He's losing in the polling now and refuses to acknowledge it.

I had him slightly in the W column prior to that final answer. He went back into the L column with that final answer.

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- Another banger was "I have a higher approval rate in Israel than here"
  
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- The final answer had me screaming... "What?!? No one is telling you that it isn't likely you'll beat Trump?" He's like... Well, if the polls show me in the negative... Someone needs to show him the polls.
  
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- It is a factually wrong headline.
  
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No the headline is correct.

Biden walked off the stage and apparently people were screaming Zelensky instead of Putin so then Biden walked back and corrected it.

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- Ah yes, he actually thought that they are the same people and that Trump has actually been his VP. Yep. That. It's not a slip of the tongue, nope, it's advanced dementia. /s
  
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Run Harris. Run Newsom. Run Obama. Run Kennedy. Hell, run Gore.

There's so many options here. This is the DNC's election to lose.

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This is the DNC's election to lose.

As it was in 2016. And lost it they did. The DNC never learns their lesson, it seems.

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Like Michelle Obama?

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- I assume that's who they mean, since Barack has already had two terms and his kids aren't old enough.
  
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Hear me out. I don't love him, but mayor Pete.

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- I was just wondering what it'd be like to have a McKinsey president.
  
  I guess his version of the Project 2025 would be to outsource the entire federal bureaucracy to India?
  
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would u guys vote for me if they ran me

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Every single one of them will lose to Trump. The DNC has sstematically failed

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To call Zelenskyy “President Putin” at that critical moment was offensive and totally unacceptable.

Calling Kamala “Vice President Trump” is kind of hilarious though.

Both of these together paint a troubling picture. Why is Biden confusing people who are supposed to be his closest allies with those who are considered to be his bitter rivals? This was supposed to be his big press conference where he proves he’s still mentally fit to be president, and he totally blew it. Somebody get him outta there, Biden isn’t fit to be president and the sooner we can admit that and move on the better it will be for this country. The gaslighting in full denial of this is incredibly dangerous, and likely driven by whoever it is that’s actually in charge and wants to stay that way (all signs point to Jill Biden, who last I checked was not elected president.)

Apparently Biden has not had a full cabinet meeting since last year. These are the people who can invoke 25th amendment on him, and it’s looking extremely suspicious all of a sudden that he’s been avoiding them, and for such an insanely long period of time too!

For those of us who have had to support an elder family member through times of mental decline, the condition is extremely apparent now, and the administration can no longer hide it. Elders often resist or get angry when confronted about necessary changes, but it’s for their own good. In this case, it’s also so we can ward off a fascist takeover of the US. Come on dem leadership, it’s time to actually be the adults in the room and handle this.

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I just don't understand the pro-Democrat party crowd's strategy. Why do they insist on keeping Biden as the Democrat candidate when that clown keeps nuking it's own odds of winning more and more everyday with his stupid shenanigans? If the peoples who keep berating everyone to vote for Biden see Trump as some sort of ultimate threat, why do they insist on using a candidate that even they admit is hated by most of his own voter base against Trump? That sound like a terrible strategy to me. Shouldn't they be mad at the Democrat party for taking such risk by insisting on a candidate so widely despised? Why don't they call for a candidate that is actually likely to beat Trump? Why do they keep berating the folks who have made it clear that they won't be voting for Biden under any circumstances when the over 60% of the Americans who don't participate in politics are right there?

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Because Biden is the consensus candidate of party bosses: he's pro-genocide, militarist to the core and will not upset the bipartisan consensus. If he drops out, someone actually decent might get nominated. You can't have that.

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I see Trump as an ultimate threat to all sorts of things, and I DON'T insist on Biden at all. I'll vote for a chimpanzee if it's not Trump.

I honestly feel like not casting a real vote against Trump is voting for our future to be Handmaids Tale and patting yourself on the back for not supporting evil, when for all practical purposes you just did. It's an abdication of civic responsibility in the name of nebulous principals that will have no effect on the future of the world and no chance of playing a real role in meaningful policy, but you do you.

The fact that the DNC and Democrats in general are a bunch of privileged, out of touch, self righteous assholes is NOT my fault. I hate it and I hate them. But there's a lot at stake and many MORE people in this world will suffer, struggle and die under Trump than under Biden. It's just math and all your ideology is VERY empty in the face of it.

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- I’ll vote for a chimpanzee if it’s not Trump.
  
  The average American won't though. You have to actually appeal to them or they'll stay home.
  
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- Then you live in a failed democracy and your only option should be systemic regime change. Viva la revolución.
  
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- I DON’T insist on Biden at all.
  
  Maybe not you specifically but I've seen a lot of peoples do.
  
  many MORE people in this world will suffer, struggle and die under Trump than under Biden. It’s just math and all your ideology is VERY empty in the face of it.
  
  See, I think this is where we disagree.
  
  You operate under the assumption that the things that the Republicans want to do couldn't happen under Biden, presumably because you think he would block Republican policies, but knowing what I know about Biden and his policies, his willingness to "reach across the aisles" and give concessions to the right, his tendency to passively letting Republican bills pass without doing anything about it even when he clearly have the power to, his failure/unwillingness to roll back Republican policies from Trump's last term let alone the ones that he expanded instead, etc.... I'm telling you honestly, I don't believe that for 1 second.
  
  I have not seen ANY evidences that Biden would act against Republican politics.
  
  Heck I haven't seen evidences that he wouldn't do a complete 180 and start supporting Republican policies that he used to denounce, it wouldn't even be the first time he does it.
  
  In your arguments in favor of voting blue, you (the peoples who tell everyone to vote blue) always use this assumption that Biden couldn't possibly be as bad as Trump as an axiom, as if it was just obvious, you never bother trying to show that it's true, you never question it, I certainly haven't ever seen any of you questioning it or trying to demonstrate it. You just treat it as some sort of fundamental truth to the point you don't even seem to notice that you are using it sometimes.
  
  I haven't seen any reason to believe that this assumption is true, on the contrary.
  
  When I look at the 2 last US presidential terms, I don't see a bad president and a worst president, I see a bad president who tell you that he's gonna to terrible shit and does exactly that and an other equally bad president that pinky promise he wont do terrible shit but then do terrible shit anyways and blames the other bad president for it when he get caught doing terrible shit.
  
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Yes, it was embarrassing. As soon as he said it I literally winced in pain. It was bad.

But. And of course there's a but. He even addressed later in the conference that him misspeaking should not over shadow the results he's getting. And he's getting results.

Man has stated he's had speech problems loong before he ran for president. Like, still a kid in school stuttering times. He sucks with names. That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?

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Here's Biden in the 2008 debate against Sarah Palin. https://youtu.be/4Hs7CptPWI4?si=ygyXTtMIiNwfAPYa

There's no "stutter." He's nailing his talking points, stringing them together fluently. The Biden of today is unrecognizable.

At the same time, it's not like Kamala is going to beat Trump. And they won't let Bernie get the nomination.

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- Yeah even a senile biden is better at public speaking than Kamala.
  
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- Bro, if your answer to all this is Bernie you're so far off in lala land there's no point in arguing with you.
  
  And that's coming from someone who donated heavily to his campaign haha
  
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That's an unfortunate fact. But why does that trump (pun intended) everything else?

Like what? His genocide?

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Because it's clearly more than a fucking speech impediment or random words he misspoke a few times. People have eyes. No amount of spin is going to change the reality that he's an elderly man whose brain is slowly fucking degenerating in real time in front of our eyes.

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- He was right about jobs going up. He was right about strengthening NATO. He was correct about the Border being more secure. He said he wants to fight greedy corporations and scummy land lords. How is all that over looked?
  
  Use you're eyes to see what he's actually saying. There was 3 or 4 gaffs after a day of talking to other world leaders on major world events. His actions speak louder than words
  
  Is he perfect, no. Absolutely not. Still better than not only the other guy but any other alternative placed in front of us.
  
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And he’s getting results.

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- Growth shatters expectations: GDP expands 3.1% - a year beginning with heavy odds of a recession
  
  Job creation 40 times rate of last 3 republican presidents - More than double Clinton and Obama
  
  Black unemployment rate lower under Biden than any other administration (4.7%) - Compared to black unemployment under Trump was 2nd worst number in history, reaching over 16%
  
  $1 Billion to replace the Blatnik Bridge connecting WI - MN
  
  $600 million to replace the I-5 Bridge between Vancouver, Washington, and Portland, Oregon, with an earthquake-resistant, multimodal bridge.
  
  $427 million to establish the first offshore wind terminal on the West Coast, off California.
  
  $372 million to replace Cape Cod's nearly 90-year-old Sagamore Bridge.
  
  $300 million for a new container terminal for the Port of New Orleans.
  
  $95 million to widen a 10-mile section of I-10 through the Gila River in Arizona.
  
  $142 million to fix the I-376 corridor in Pittsburgh, including an area infamously known as "the bathtub" due to its regular flooding.
  
  $150 million to reconnect communities divided by the Cross Bronx Expressway in New York built in the mid-1900s.
  
  Modernizes American port infrastructure
  
  $3B investment for high speed internet for rural communities
  
  $623 million to build EV charging network
  
  Awards nearly $163 billion in federal contracts to small businesses
  
  $426 million for Northern California offshore wind farm
  
  Post-pandemics recovery is by far the most successful in the world
  
  US oil production hits all-time high
  
  Rescinds Trump-era "Denial of Care" rule that allowed health care workers to deny medical care to patients because of their personal religious or moral belief
  
  Launches $11 billion on semiconductor-related research and development including $5 billion National Semiconductor Technology Center
  
  US Trade Deficit With China Narrows to Lowest Since 2010
  
  $250 million to modernize airports in 37 states
  
  $4.4 million to upgrade Maine's power grid
  
  Violent crime drop significantly since 2020
  
  $5.8 billion to clean up nation’s drinking water and upgrade infrastructure
  
  Round 15 of student loan forgiveness: $1.2 billion of federal student loans
  
  Orders cybersecurity regulations for port operators similar to standardized safety regulations preventing injury and damage to people and infrastructure
  
  $500 million to combat wildfire and improve resilience
  
  $1 billion deal with Oregon, Washington, and 4 Columbia River tribes to revive Northwest salmon population
  
  $1.7 billion package to fund initiatives aimed at ending hunger across the United States by 2030
  
  $1 billion toward cleaning up 110 contaminated sites
  
  $28 billion towards substance abuse treatment
  
  $366 million to accelerate clean energy deployment in rural and remote areas
  
  Implemented new rule that cuts credit card late fees $32 to $8
  
  Allows student loan borrowers to repay based on income providing affordable payments and eventual student loan forgiveness
  
  Directs DOJ to issue regulations giving clear protections of sensitive data from access by countries of concern
  
  Bans asbestos
  
  Funds program to fund coast-to-coast bicycle path without hitting a road
  
  Commits $6B to cut emissions from high-carbon industries
  
  Lends $1.5B to restart Michigan nuclear power plant
  
  Allocates $750 million for hydrogen research and development
  
  Restores threatened species protections dropped by Trump
  
  Blocks mining on more than 221,000 acres of federal land in Colorado
  
  First National standard ever for reducing harmful chemicals in drinking water
  
  "Last resort" program keeps tens of thousands of American veterans who were in danger of losing their homes
  
  America's economy growing at double the rate of all other G7 countries
  
  Adds Title IX protections for LGBT students, forbidding discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity
  
  Shields millions of acres of Alaskan wilderness from drilling and mining
  
  $7 billion in federal grants for residential solar projects serving 900,000-plus households
  
  Extends rule requiring overtime pay to workers making under $58,000 annually
  
  Requires airlines to give cash refunds for canceled and significantly delayed flights
  
  Establishes standards to eliminate emissions from new federal buildings by 2030
  
  Lays out conditions for national goal to cut emissions from freight shipping down to zero
  
  Bans most noncompete employment agreements preventing workers from joining competing businesses or launching ones of their own
  
  Reinstates net neutrality
  
  Prohibits federally funded health providers & insurers from discriminating on basis of sexual orientation and gender identity
  
  Canadian Solar, one of the largest solar manufacturing companies in the world coming back to the US, thanks to the Inflation Reduction Act
  
  Round 16 of student debt forgiveness: Clears $6 billion in debt for closed art school’s students
  
  In 2021 only three states supplied 12 months of post partum care - Three years later 46 states now do
  
  Online platforms and social media companies required to report child sex trafficking and online enticement to NCMEC’s tip line
  
  Bans Russian uranium imports
  
  $16 billion investments in Historically Black Colleges and Universities
  
  Round 17 of student debt forgiveness: $7.7 billion for over 160,000 borrowers
  
  Free online tax filing program piloted this year made permanent and scope will be expanded
  
  Executive action ordering the closure of border cutting asylum claims in half (according to FOX News)
  
  Prohibits medical debt from being reported on credit reports
  
  Pardons US Service Members convicted because they were gay
  
  Enacts plan to end Parkinson’s disease
  
  Codifies same-sex and interracial marriage
  
  Bolsters nation’s nuclear power by speeding timeline for licensing new nuclear reactors and cut fees that companies have to pay to do so
  
  That's just the past year. Want me to find more for you? Or maybe you can do more research past "he's old!!!1!"
  
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His speech impediment is bullshit. Where was it when he was Obama's VP? Where was it in the Senate?

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- Still with him. He only had to talk like 10 times a year then though so it wasn't as noticeable
  
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There are some situations that you just can't "spin" your way out of

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Did he say that he's going to immediately turn the U.S. into a Theocratic Dictatorship? No?

Then I do not give a single fuck, and people that do are probably bots. Fuck off Billionaire newspaper.

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You're the only one saying you want to help Trump win.

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If I was trying to throw the election, I really can't think of what I'd be doing differently right now.

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Putin can wax lyrical about Russian history going back millenia without notes. Biden can...

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"...well...anyway..."

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And I forgot my girlfriends name for a minute the other day at dinner. But I got top 5 people in state for one of my final year school subjects

Are you hiring a sales person or a president.

Some of the world's dumbest liers are excellent at talking. Often the people you should be listening to though aren't as good

The fact that Trump thinks his golf score is important to America should tell you everything you need to know

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who cares; certainly not me. trump is a convicted felon who wants to usher in fascism and destroy the economy.

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Hahahahahah imagine voting for this piece of shit with dementia hahahahah

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One thing that I love from this thread.....the number of conservative trolls. They are fucking terrified that Biden is going to win. So bad that they are pushing this absolute bullshit of doubt and worry about Biden.

Anyone that's actually paying attention to Biden knows that the dude has been getting shit done even with a stalled congress. Any one that's even remotely paying attention to the election is literally not going to elect a fascist, and people are absolutely starting to pay attention. Look at the Project 2025 bullshit. Look at how much people are starting to realize how fucking serious this is. Even Trump has desperately tried to distance himself from it, and can't seem to keep dodging now that speeches and videos of him talking about it starting to surface.

Bidens okay. Democrats have backed him. He's not dropping out.

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If you think the only reason people would be against Biden running at this point is because they're secret Republican shills, I genuinely think you may need to spend more time offline.

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- Do I wish there was a better candidate running? Sure. But I'll still be voting Biden no matter what. I'm also not going to spend my energy talking about how shit he is because all that does is help an actual fucking fascist pedophile into office. So not really sure what else your aim could be, cause if your a Democrat it's a fucking stupid one.
  
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Anyone that’s actually paying attention knows that both candidates are horrible.

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- It still comes down to voting for either a guy who mumbled and stumbled on some words or a convicted felon, pedophile, con man, hedonistic fascist.
  
  Gonna be really difficult to figure out who to vote for...a real fucking challenge.
  
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- Wow. Bold take there. Did it take you all night to figure that one out?
  
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