Biden says it’s ‘time to outlaw’ AR-15 after Trump assassination attempt

Biden is doing this to drive a wedge into Republicans. The gun nuts and the ones that don't care about guns will have differing opinions because now gun violence affects them directly. It's really smart.

Biden looks presidential. Trump has three choices:

1. Come out against AR-15s, for obvious reasons. This makes gun nuts less likely to vote for him.

2. Come out in favor of AR-15s. He looks insane to Republicans who don't care about guns.

3. Trump ignores the issue or waffles and looks unpresidential.

Number 3 is most likely. Of course the correct answer is number 4: propose a competing policy that is nuanced. But that's impossible for trump.

Bernie had this right. Despite being pretty progressive, he wasn't for outlawing semiautomatic firearms because they were black and looked scary. He believed that the right to arms was justified. This "AR Ban" is a great way to lose a lot of independents, and even some hard D voters like myself. There are a lot of dems who carry, and a lot of them who own the very firearms he wants to ban.

Holy deep fried frankenfuck will the Democrats NEVER LEARN?!?!?!?!

AFTER!

You talk about guns AFTER the election!

What in the actual pogostickingpopejohnpaul is he THINKING?!?!?

The optics are 1000% awful here.

Uvalde wasn't enough, but a potshot at the planet's most notorious living felon is?

Nah, I think I'll keep my shit and wait for the far right to move.

The fuckin scenario we are in I swear.

Far right: let's kill the left and do fascism.

Democrats: let's ban weapons right now while there's threats of violence against democrats.

Really?

Just as dumb as when Beto said it before his election...

It'll never pass, and he thinks saying it will get votes, but all it does is motivate idiots to vote trump, even tho he actually did an executive action to try and close a loophole.

It might not have stood, but it worked for a couple of years.

Banning guns is a losing policy for democrats. It only ever hurts them. I really wish they'd stop lighting political capital on fire with statements like this

This is like begging for Republicans to start making up conspiracies about how the Democrats set this all up to take away their gun rights.

It seems like such a lazy non-solution. Essentially telling shooters "Hey, from now on, you can only use ALL THE OTHER GUNS" as if that solves something.

I can think of literally no better reason to keep ARs legal than the events of last week.

Braindead take, is Biden gonna come to my rescue when some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch?

I'll give up my guns after the christo-facists give up theirs, not before.

FUCK

its like he's trying to lose

this is not going to get anyone excited about voting for him, but it will galvanize the opposition and push swing voters into staying home on election day at the very least

I dunno, it didn't work out so well for Beto.

That fucking horrible assassination attempt would have happened with or without the AR, this is just another knee-jerk emotional reaction, and it could NOT come at a worse time (pre-election). We're fucked.

Handguns used in ~2/3 of all gun murders in the U.S.: I sleep

AR-15 used in one assassination attempt of geriatric running for president in 2024: REAL SHIT

Nooo, let’s not. We’re gonna need those pretty soon from the looks of it.

Anyone looking to ban weapons must not believe Jan 6th was a genuine insurrection.

Why, oh why, would you disarm the people and give the state a monopoly on violence when that state is teetering on the edge of fascism.

This is a fucking retarded take and I vote Democrat. Jesus.

I want you to imagine the following scenario:

The RIAA: "Internet file sharing of mp3s is eating into our profits. Government, we want you to ban the Rio Volt SP250 mp3 player."

The Government: "Yes, banning only that specific make and model of mp3 player and none of the rest of Rio's product catalog, or any mp3 players manufactured by any other brand, will completely and permanently address this scourge of copyright infringement. Consider it done."

That's you! That's how DUMB you sound!

--GLaDOS.

Here's what happens when you ban a firearm by name: manufacturers change some extremely minor detail, change the model number, and keep selling it. The Tec-9 open bolt machine pistol was used in a few school shootings in the 90's, most prominently the Columbine massacre. California banned the gun by name in state law. The manufacturer responded by moving the sling ring from one side of the gun to the other and calling it the Tec-DC9, with "DC" standing for "Designed for California."

It's not an engineering problem. Banning individual makes and models is how you solve (or at least end) an engineering problem. This is a culture problem.

Fucking typical.

Something comes close to removing a problem created by the conservatives and the Democrats want to take it away!

This does nothing to motivate the left and everything to motivate the right....

Biden, are you TRYING to lose?

The only way this is possible is by rewriting the Constitution. FDR was the last president willing to, and that definitely didn't happen.

Biden doesn't have Constitution rewriting level support.

Biden tries to throw a sure thing, again.

The type of rifle isn't the problem here. If the shooter had used something better it's likely Trump wouldn't have survived.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_tower_shooting

"Charles Whitman killed seventeen individuals and wounded at least thirty-one others over the course of thirteen hours before he was killed on the observation deck of the UT Tower on August 1, 1966.[72]"

And of course, infamously:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_John_F._Kennedy

...Does Pres. Biden really think that the assassination attempt would have gone less well if Crooks had been using a Ruger American bolt action rifle chambered in 6.5CM? Does he really think that?

Let's be super-clear here, and AR-15 uses an intermediate cartridge. Most bolt action hunting rifles are going to use full-power cartridges, cartridges that have a longer range, may have a flatter trajectory, have less wind drift, and have a helluva lot more power when they hit their target. A center mass hit with an AR-15 at 150y is going to be bad; a center mass hit with a .308 or 6.5CM at 150y is going to be the end of someone's world. Bear in mind that many hunters do not consider a .225/5.56x45mm bullet to be ethical for deer hunting because it's lower power, while there's very broad agreement that 6.5CM and .308 are just dandy.

Also, calling for banning guns in an election year where you're already behind? When gun bans tend to galvanize Republicans and get them out to the polls? Incredibly dumb. Unbelievably dumb.

Of all the reasons to ban a gun, trumps little knicked ear is low on my list

Time to force registration of guns. Time to force psych evals for gun owners. I own two guns. One is a SKS I bought in 1990. Although considered a assault rifle it is nothing more than a semi automatic hunting rifle. I would gladly submit to what I propose in order to ensure that some broken soul doesn't have access to a weapon. Anyone who is against accountability in this matter is probably a danger.

I mean, fine. But the recent attempt didn’t make the AR-15 look especially dangerous.

Marx warned against this. without armed workers the dismantling of the state machine will be much harder.

What an idiot. Does he not realize talking about banning guns is the number one way to motivate right wingers? The US is NOT going to ban guns especially with the current Supreme Court. This is an example of his old team running old plays that haven't been successful since the 90s. He needs to go before he causes any more damage to his party.

Let's ban assassination too, that will show 'em!

It's Pete coming for yo guns energy. Please drop the guns dems for the love of your country.

Time to ban roofs.

Biden speed-running losing the election.

At this point all Trump has to do is pretend this didn't phase him, then not say anything too stupid and I'm sure Biden will do his best to just hand it over.

Bro why? I'd vote for a fucking shoe over him at this point, unfortunately it's between sundowners and down syndrome. These guys want to destroy everything this country was founded on and developed over the years and banning a gun is where you go?!

At this point it's intentional sabotage. No one fucking wants this. It won't change anything. Just leave it the fuck alone and start doing something for the lower and middle classes to secure your goddamn votes. Or just let the conservatives use your stupidity as a stepping stone to steal your voters by fulfilling their fear mongering.

Sandy Hook

The optics on this are abysmal. I get that he's trying to be consistent with party ideology any time there is a shooting where someone dies, but we've got an election in 4 months and talking about banning guns of any kind gets conservatives motivated to turn out.

Not sure this will make a difference for the election. At this point, I suspect that support for gun control/rights is petty well understood and priced into support for the candidates. No one expects Biden to veto gun control legislation and no one expects Trump to sign it. Granted, Trump can be a bit of a wild card sometimes (see: bump stocks reclassification).

That said, this is likely a very hollow promise. Such legislation is almost certainly a dead bill in Congress. And even if it somehow passed, it's likely not going to make it past the current Supreme Court.

At best, this is just empty rhetoric.

Buddy, if you don't want to be President again just step down and let someone else run.

Now is the time?

But that's the official state rifle of the school shooter!

Meh. Our soldiers are trained on these. They are familiar. Why ban the weapon people know how to properly use and maintain?

If I want to snipe someone, I'm using a high powered hunting rifle like a .308 or 7mm.

I have so many questions

At least he is sticking up for Vice President Trump

Why? If I were in the politician killing business I’d be using an AXSR, not an AR. It’s just the wrong tool for the job.

Bruh needs to fuck off.

Stfu joe. You're and idiot.

As a foreign, I don't know why US need to buy real AR-15 at home.

If you want to play, buy Airsoft. If you want to hunt, buy a rifle.

Ooh this is smart

Anyone remember that one Hamas dude who became a very good sniper using an old M1 lol.

Resistance movements still use even older rifles like the Mosin Nagant. Banning the AR-15 isn't going to accomplish anything of value.

I think a way funnier and better option would be to require marksmanship exams that you have to pass in order to have a license for rifles and shotguns. A hilariously large amount of people would fail to qualify.

And make it expensive so it immediately disuades anyone trying to get a capable firearm quickly.

Thanks Biden, guess I have some shopping to do before prices go up.

How about we outlaw nukes instead? F-35s? Missile cruisers? Reaper drones? Whatever they have in orbit that can kill us?