I don't get Ska hatred. It's fast, punky dance music for alternative clubs, you have to go out of your way to be exposed to it. It's not like its being continually replayed on "Billboard's top 20 hits" radio stations.
Also, it's older than Rock and Roll. It's from a time when big sound meant more band members, but the current music ecomony doesn't seem well suited to supporting acts with lots of members. I long for asignificant fourth wave ska revival.
It’s weird because I’m pretty much okay with either. Like it’s usually not the best thing on earth but definitely not bad either. Sometimes I’m in the mood for it and sometimes not. But maybe for others it is “polarizing.” Some people are picky :(
Everyone's entitled to their opinions, and it's all good. I absolutely love pineapple, just not on pizza. Hawaiian pizza is my wife's jam, while I'm a pepperoni and mushroom guy, so luckily a smart individual once upon a time invented 1/2+1/2 pizzas.
The best way I've ever heard third wave ska described was something like "the music that plays when your mom tells you she just made you and your friends mozzarella sticks"
Granted, I'm GenX, so my concept of ska is rooted in the 80s, but I can't imagine that it's changed much since then.
Wait a minute... is this one of those deals where it's trendy in some peer group to broadcast a hatred for something? Like anyone who wants to hang with the cool kids has to verify that they too hate ska?
Which would be sort of like pineapple on pizza now that I think about it, so might well be the whole point here...
I admittedly know nothing about Ska, and music genres more generally, and whatever little searching I did upon reading this post have given me nothing that I can digest.
However, I've read a discussion about hate for ska coming from cultural appropriation and being liked by teenage boys. Can someone walk me through this?
Ska is simple, fun music that cares little for anything other than being fun, and is often gleefully immature. As such, teenage boys like it and pretentious music snobs love to look down their noses at it. Ska bands are aware of this fact and tend to lean into it, creating a self-aware and often self-parodying genre. It can be argued that it's not "good" music. But it is, without a doubt, fun and high energy music and a live ska show is a blast.
As far as cultural appropriation goes, nobody who matters cares, as all music is a collaborative effort that builds off of previous works. Music belongs to the world, and gatekeeping it as belonging to any particular culture is ridiculous. Ska in particular is a genre that loves to do covers, and often the sillier the better.
As a testament to the 'having fun' part, one of the most well known ska bands in recent time, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, have a member who is a dancer. He's been with them since their inception and tours with them. You'll see him on most live performances. His name is Ben Carr.
Thank you. To be quite honest, I've had a roommate once who loved reggae and ska, and even though I don't know the names of the songs nor the artists, I kinda like the entire vibe of it. Not that I'd want to listen to it all day though, but a bit of it in a day's listening makes my day a bit brighter, if that even makes sense.
I might have been guilty of wrongfully associating ska with reggae though, and to be fair, I couldn't even distinguish one from the other.
Ska is simple, fun music that cares little for anything other than being fun, and is often gleefully immature.
Ska, as youngsters know it today, was reinvented by the 2-Tone movement in the UK (specifically Coventry) in the late 70s. The scene was overtly political and as @NuPNuA has stated was a deliberately multicultural movement, hence the name.
If you want to hear some original ska from Jamaica then have a look for songs by Prince Buster but beware you will find some historical attitudes.
A lot of the early ska-punk crossover acts in Britain had people of west Indian origin in them, so if anything it was a victory for multiculturalism rather than cultural appropriation. I've never heard a west Indian moan about white ska acts either.
If we want to get technical, all rock and roll, rap, ska, punk, etc are cultural appropriation. Most modern music comes from black cultural music genres first.
Well, there is original ska (1950-1960s Jamaican ska) which is fantastic, groovy, soulful and it changed music forever. And then there is “modern” (appropriated) ska which is … just cringe and headache.
Pineapple on pizza is amazing.
Appropriated ska is like egg, strawberries, liquorice and corn mixed in a bowl and put on pizza dough.