In Spain, dozens of girls are reporting AI-generated nude photos of them being circulated at school: ‘My heart skipped a beat’

Politics is about to get WILD

To verify if something is real, we might have to rely on witness testimony.

This is not going to work. Just because images and videos become less reliable that doesn't mean we will forget about the fact that eyewitness testimony is very unreliable.

Indeed, once the AI gets good enough, the value of pictures and videos will plummet to zero.

This just isn't true. They will still be used to sexualise people, mostly girls and women, against their consent. It's no different from AI-generated child pornography. It does harm even if no 'real' people appear in the images.

Fucking horrible world we're forced to live in. Where's the fucking exit?

A bit off topic, but I wonder if the entertainment industry as a whole is going to be completely destroyed by AI when it gets good enough.

I can totally see myself prompting “a movie about love in the style of Star Wars, with Ryan Gosling and Audrey Hepburn as the leads, directed by Alfred Hitchcock, written by Vincent Hugo.” And then what? It’s game over for any content creation.

Curious if I’ll see that kind of power at home (using open source tools) in my lifetime.

Holy shit, I never thought of the whole witness testimony aspect. For some reason my mind was just like “well, nothing we see in videos or pictures is real anymore, guess everyone is just gonna devolve into believing whatever confirms their bias and argue endlessly about which pictures are fake and which are real.”

Witness testimony and live political interactions are going to become incredibly important for how our society views “the truth” in world events in the near future. I don’t know if I love or hate that.

Not necessarily, solutions can implemented. For example, footage from private security cameras can be sent to trusted establishment (trusted by the court at least) in real time which can be timestamped and stored (maybe not necessarily even stored there, encryption with timestamp may be enough). If source private camera and the network is secure, footage is also secure.

Maybe there will be cameras as well that sign the pictures they take?

To verify if something is real, we might have to rely on witness testimony flagrancy.

FTFY. Witness has never been that good a means to verify something is real.

Thats why we need Blockchain Technology..

Check Blockchain Camera for example: https://github.com/sv1sjp/Blockchain_Camera

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Blockchain Camera provides an easy and safe way to capture and guarantee the existence of videos reducing the impact of modified videos as it can preserve the integrity and validity of videos using Blockchain Technology. Blockchain Camera sends to Ethereum Network the hash of each video and the time the video has been recorded in order to be able validate that a video is genuine and hasn't been modified using a Blockchain Camera Validation Tool.


  

Fang mit dem relativ neuen Fall hier an, und von da solltest du dann genug Info haben um selber zu suchen was die letzten Jahre passiert ist - das ist exakt das wovor damals gewarnt wurde, aber wer den hysterischen Irren die alles was irgendwie mit "Teenager entdecken Sexualitaet" mit dem Strafrecht erschlagen wollen mit durchdachten Argumenten kommt ist dann ja direkt auch ein Paedophiler.

https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/koblenz/lehrerin-kinderpornografischer-inhalte-konfisziert-deswegen-angeklagt-100.html

I hope so. We shouldn't be ashamed of our bodies or sexuality.

I just hope they even try to catch these people. I've tried to look up who's behind that and it's a domain that's with name.com and the server is behind Cloudflare. I'm not Anonymous, so that's the point at which I'm at my wits' end. Someone enraged could file a few reports at their abuse contacts... Just sayin...

There's always the possibility they just catch the boy and just punish him. Letting the even more disgusting people in the background keep doing what they want. Because it would be difficult to get a hold of them. This would be the easiest route for the prosecuters and the least efficient way to deal with this issue as a whole.

Prison at the very least and all the inmates need to know that you engaged in CP.

I didn't follow how the story turned out that closely. I think it was a schoolmate who did this. I kinda split up my answer because I think if a kid/minor is the offender, it's not yet too late to learn how to behave (hopefully). But blackmailing people with nudes is a bit more than the usual bullying and occasional fight between boys we did back in the day. I trust some judge has a look at the individual case and comes up with a proper punishment that factors this in.

What annoys me is the people who offer this service. Advertise for use-cases like this and probably deliberately didn't put any filters in place not even if it's pictures of minors. I think they should be charged, fined and ultimately that business case should be banned. I (anonymously) filed a complaint, after writing that comment in September. But they're still online as of today.

So in my opinion the kid should be taught a lesson and the company should pay for this and be closed for good.

Considering that AI services typically cost money, especially those advertising adult themes, it kinda does do support the hosters of such services.

I can already get a canvas and brush and draw what I think u/DessertStorms looks like naked and there is nothing you can do about it.

Photoshopped nude pictures of celebrities (and people the photoshopper knew personally) have been around for at least 30 years at this point. This is not a new issue as far as the legal situation is concerned, just the ease of doing it changed a bit.

Have you ever posted a photo on Facebook or Instagram?

If the answer is yes, congratulations! You gave consent.

The age of the victims is not really relevant. The problem would remain if the article were about adults.

We'll need an AI run police state to stop this technology. I doubt anybody has even the slightest interest in that.

Its already happened, and there is not enough In the world bleach to unsee it.

Why? They didn’t take or share any nudes, and nobody believes they did.

This is only a nightmare if an ignorant adult tells them that it is.

Issue (A) is bad because it’s essentially CSAM and also because it’s attempting to access a view of someone that the subject likely hasn’t permitted the generator to have access to. This is a privacy violation and the ethics around it are questionable at best.

That part is not a privacy violation, the same way someone drawing in a canvas their own impression of what a bank vault looks like on the inside does not constitute a trespassing / violation of privacy of the bank. Unless the AI in question used actual nudes of them as a basis, but then we wouldn't need the extra AI step for this to be a problem, right? Otherwise, I'm rather sure that the actual privacy violation starts at (B).

Ofc, none of that makes it less of a problem, but it does feel to me like it subverts a potential angle for fighting against this.

I appreciate your intentions, but your examples are just not up to the standard needed to treat AI generated nudes any differently than a nude magazine collage with kids’ crushes faces in it.

As uncanny as the nudes might be, they are NOT accurate. People know this and they are going to learn one way or another to adjust their definition of “real”. No character details like moles or their actual skin tone, or anything like this will be accurately portrayed. They have no reason to think “someone has seen their naked body”. Yeah, if someone tells them to worry about it, they will, as any young person will, but why? The bigger the deal we make of it, the worse it is, and the litmus test is, is it bad if we decide to ignore it and teach kids that ai generated nudes have nothing to do with them and that they can safely ignore them, then they do basically zero harm.

How is your test example related to this at all? In the one case, my face and clothed picture is acquired likely with my implied permission from social media and modifications that i did not authorize are added to it and it is then distributed, making me look naked and having no bearing on my person or character (since the ai doesn’t actually know what i look like naked) so no conclusion anyone would draw from it constitutes a disclosure of information about me. The test example constitutes a clear disclosure with provenance to establish the validity of the information, quire a different scenario. It is true that AI chat bots can be jail-broken to release my previous questions which might reveal things about my character that i do not wish to disclose, but that is a different issue and unrelated to these nude generators.

I’m not saying handing these nudes to a kid or blackmailing them is not criminal or harassment, just that the technology and medium should have almost no bearing on how we treat this.

No amount of false equivalencies will make me or anyone else accept something as stupid, dangerous and terrible as generative AI.

It's on you to accept you don't have the right to have a robot think and be creative for you, and that poor girl is one of many reasons why.

AI generated content is usually pretty obvious.

You're not a genie, you're a lazy reprobate.

It's child porn in this case. Regulate it as such. Putting a real child's head onto an AI generated body is sexualizing a child.

Making unauthorized nude images of other people, probably. The service did advertise, "undress anyone".

Surely there will be loop holes, but there must be laws there in the first place. Better something than nothing

Fossil fuels is absolutely number one, I was talking about digital technology specifically

Maybe it would feel different to you if it was your daughter's fake nudes making their rounds on her classmate's social media