Does anyone know of a trustworthy and curated list of qanon sites that I can use for my pihole(s)?
Does anyone know of a trustworthy and curated list of qanon sites that I can use for my pihole(s)?
So, until recently, I have been using https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/blob/master/hosts.txt
However, as some issues that I have opened have shown, there are a bunch of left wing and progressive sites on this list ( https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues ). I no longer think that it is trustworthy. Especially after reading some of the repo owners replies. Intentionally added was t.me which is a generic url for any telegram group. Discordapp.com was on it at one point.
Oy Vey. It's clear to me that the owner of this repo is not actually spending much time actually curating this list and instead it's just a shotgun approach. Does anyone know of a good alternative?
sorry for the potentially dumb remark but… couldn’t you just avoid navigating to QAnon websites? I’ve never had an issue unintentionally navigating to one. It also seems like this repo owner is quite opinionated and trying to create a “no bad sites” filter list, which… honestly, you can control your own destiny with web browsing.
if this is to protect kids on your network, I think it’s probably a good idea to have a broader conversation with them about evaluating sources, tell them about media bias checking sites, and just generally educating them on red flags to distrust. This will probably serve them much better than trying to block right wing sites, especially since plenty of normal websites have harmful right wing content. YouTube in particular disseminates extremely misleading and harmful material via ads (lots of anti-trans hate speech).
In any case, I can’t find another repo - if you need the filter still, maybe you could fork the list yourself, and remove anything that you don’t find objectionable? (again, I feel like this is an example of why to not rely on a third party to block websites based off opinion/politics)
60if this is to protect kids on your network
Sadly, I suspect this is to protect adults on the network...
81I mean, that would be kinda crazy, and I also don't think it would do any good to try and filter them. Like, you've got conspiracy-driven right wingers under your domain - no matter what way you spin it, you're dealing with shitty people. You're either going to bring them to a fever pitch in an argument over you blocking their internet access, or you're going to give them access and have to deal with them perpetuating their harmful views to you and all around them.
If you're at that point, better to consider whether or not you really want those people in your lives.
If you're in a situation where you can't cut those people off, what do you expect to achieve other than a different form of conflict by inhibiting their internet access? If you're going to be quiet about doing it and hope they don't understand, is it really healthy to be pulling those strings and manipulating like that? Hell, I'm not even sure it would be ethical, I feel like that kind of manipulation would be really shitty to do, even to shitty people and their shitty views.
EDIT: I'm of course assuming the adults need "protection" because there's no path to just, like, discussing things healthily. If there's a healthy way to discuss... that should really be the preference.
12If that’s the case foxnews would like cut out most of the challenge. I’m not old enough to have adult children yet but I still have a hard time grasping news channels are entertainment venues.
News used to be actual news done by reporters. It had credibility and a degree of respect. This shift has been near impossible for my parents generation
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if this is to protect kids on your network
Sadly, I suspect this is to protect adults on the network...
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The issues you raised about those sites were fixed within two hours.
https://github.com/rimu/no-qanon/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aclosed
18Those were just the ones I found. There are likely many, many more. The sites I found are not even small publications either. Commondreams, rawstory, dailykos? Those are some very recognizable sites. if big ones like that slipped through, then that tells me that there is zero effort going into vetting the list.
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If you're doing this in a business environment, I wouldn't fool around with a home rolled option and would just go straight with a Websense subscription:
https://www.websense.com/content/support/library/deployctr/v76/dic_wcg.aspx
14To be fair, last I checked, commondreams was so far to the left, they fell right off the flat earth. I consider myself pretty progressive and a lot of the stuff I saw from that site made me roll my eyes and go "this is where people get those crazy ideas about progressives having crazy ideas!"
Anyways, it's been a few years since I paid any attention to them so maybe they're not so cringe anymore.
10Doesn't it sound at least a little bit foolish to trust someone else to intentionally censor the politics of your internet? You're creating your own echo chamber.
How can you understand and disagree with the other side if you can't even read their content? I'm not even talking about hate groups, I'm talking basics like WikiLeaks and the NRA.
9Everyone is susceptible to misinformation, information silos, and bad arguments. Someone who claims that they are not susceptible to these things is the most susceptible.
You can view it as efficiency. Something coming from a qanon source is going to be garbage, so you're saving yourself the time of having it be in your view.
14Even if what you're saying is true, you're now relying on someone else (or a group of people) to censor sites you wouldn't like and also not be susceptible to those things when creating this blocklist. You're ignoring the risks associated with false positives. You can't outsource your own critical thinking.
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I use that list as well as the ones at https://github.com/antifa-n/pihole/ (though they haven't been updated in years). I also use OpenDNS upstream to block their "Hate/Discrimination" category (among others).
I've been pretty happy with this setup, but I would welcome alternatives/additional blocklists.
7I’d rather be able to filter these topics from sites like Lemmy, I’ll never actually go to them. I’m curious what you’re really trying to accomplish.
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