Two protesters burn Koran in front of Iraqi embassy in Denmark
Two protesters burn Koran in front of Iraqi embassy in Denmark
Iraq condemned the burning of a copy of the Koran in front of its embassy in Denmark on Monday and said Danish staff at the embassy in Baghdad had left the country after protests there, while Copenhagen said it had "not withdrawn from Iraq".
Not something anyone should be killed or threatened for, but it's still being an asshole on purpose.
28Sure, but surely there's a point where the government will prosecute hate crimes, or potentially refuse to protect you from the consequences.
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What’s not okay: To expect others to submit to rules of your worldview. Especially if others do not share this view or agree to the rule.
You have the right to believe whatever you like, but don’t expect me to follow. Because I have the same right.
This applies to acts which do not harm anybody or anything, like destroying a copy of a book which you own, without eradicating the book from existence or taking it from others.
Otherwise, we play the victim game. I can do that too! Look, I’m an atheist. This is a very serious thing for me. I feel appalled by the idea that more than 200 years after the enlightenment (just to name one of many reasons), people still believe and share religious ideas. The abrahamic scriptures are riddled with hate speech and endorsements of violence. To call these text collections ‘holy’ is an insult to everything I hold dear, like science and human rights. I’m offended by their mere existence, and perceive public displays as a personal offense to my worldview. I demand everybody in every country to respect my feelings and stop these atrocious acts.
Of course the sane alternative would be to thicken my skin, learn to deal with my emotions (which means I deal with them, not externalizing), respect differences as long as they do no harm.
These book burnings only exist because people make an unjustified fuzz about it, occasionally in a violent way. You can have your religion with all it’s rules, but you cannot expect people to apply who don’t subscribe.
12Yeah book burnings are totally an affirmation of free and open discussion and in no way reflects a deeply seated intolerance. Countries with regular book burnings are bastions of freedom.
9There's a huge difference between a "book burning" and "burning a single book"
8I think the difference is if it's the State burning the books because they are "dangerous" and the State doesn't want you to read it then that speaks of fascism. If it is citizens/civilians burning a book, that they own, because of some personal desire to express themselves then it's their expression.
Maybe they are expressiomlns of hate, but a citizen expressing that is different than the State expressing that. One has more power over the other.
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"Protesters", what are they protesting exactly?
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I would not want to be working in the Danish embassy in Iraq right now..
5Lol - bet that was a close call!
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Really ridiculous. Can't they touch silicon and stick to 4chan?
4Hahaha the bigots are such losers they need to touch grass!
Nooooooo not like that!
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That's like, the stupidest witch hunt.
They could be protesting for actual issues like climate change, but they are over there burning books. And nobody knows what they are trying to do.
2Another political ruse in order to seed rage and division just like the last in SWE
0If they would have done that in a Muslim country they would be dead... They are crazy
-8This is why it needs to be done - each day until the violence stops. Its disrespectful sure, but to see all the Arabic nations raise up over a burned book just shows it’s all about local control. Nobody cares about their brothers being slaughtered in Israel, but burn a book and they’re all in the streets. Making noise that nobody ever hears. I’m places few visit. It’s a circus and their rulers are surfing on that.
5Is that a good thing?
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You never see edgelord atheists burning Bibles to trigger Christians - and the reason they don't is because they know they won't get away with it. But since Muslims have been designated as an "acceptable" target in the west, this shit is allowed - and the right-wingers know they can push people into accepting their agenda like this.
-20You never see edgelord atheists burning Bibles to trigger Christians - and the reason they don’t is because they know they won’t get away with it.
Rather because we know we get away with it. Because most Christians don't feel so entitled to expect others to live by their rules, and threaten them with death when they don't.
These provocations make sense as long as the other side takes offense for so little, in such a violent way. It's this encroaching and inacceptable attitude which makes resistance a necessity.
The article sheds no light on what the actual motives of these particular protesters are.
11Because most Christians don’t feel so entitled to expect others to live by their rules, and threaten them with death when they don’t.
Ok come on, my friend. I know a bible burning won't get you the death penalty, but many many many people have been killed and imprisoned for not living to Christian values, especially in the United States. It's "just a few crazies" or whatever, but it really isn't since these actions happen in an environment of indirect public support.
4and threaten them with death when they don’t.
You mean... except for that entire colonialism thing, huh?
These provocations make sense as long as the other side takes offense for so little
Go burn Bibles in public, then... we'll see how long it takes the christo-fascists to show up at your door. Somehow, I don't think you will.
The article sheds no light on what the actual motives of these particular protesters are.
Don't have to... it's very easy to tell what they are. And it seems plenty of people are willing to run interference for these nazis - as long as they can be aimed at Muslims, of course.
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the reason they don’t is because they know they won’t get away with it
What do you mean by "won't get away with it"? Also the article doesn't mention anything about atheism, only 'anti-Muslim', which are obviously two very different things. I'm fairly certain the reason why you see less Bible burnings than Quran burnings in the west is because the west is predominantly Christian, so of course there would be less burning of the Bible, not because of the notion of some atheists of 'getting away with it'.
10so of course there would be less burning of the Bible,
There is absolutely no particular reason you should see Quran burnings in the west, either... that is, unless it's the same old west demonizing the same old "other."
not because of the notion of some atheists of ‘getting away with it’.
No, it's a valid question - if this is (supposedly) about "freedom of speech" (which the Quran burners always pretend it's all about), why don't you see these vitriolic right-wing atheists (for which dipshits like Bill Maher is a spokesperson) test "freedom of speech" by burning Bibles? I mean... this is about "freedom of speech," isn't it?
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I can take a dump on the bible and burn it in front of the vatican and there is a good chance that nothing bad will happen to me.
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