“Communism bad”

If only there were some kind of way for it to not devolve into totalitarian dictatorship...

As a theory, sure. I just have yet to see it expressed in any functional way that didn't devolve into a shit show. See: Russia, etc.,

I think it's telling that so many wish for a return to communism but still defend Putin's atrocities. :|

Any current real-life examples of "communism good"?

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Funny, the same thing happened when I realized that I'm Trans. It's almost as if capitalist ran media is incentivised to lie and decive in ways that cause permanent damage.

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Now I love boiling down the pitfalls of modern western society into large statements like "capitalism bad" and "communism good" as much as anyone, but having dealt with a bunch of people dismiss good change as "that's communism" has made me rethink how I talk about topics online and in person.

Now the accelerationist are gonna be mad about this for sure, but maybe you should start small, and discuss topics at a more local level. Then again the internet is world wide and everyone wants to talk about grand scale things.

Basically, I've stopped telling people outside of my direct circle that leftism cool, and instead talk about socialised medicine programs, pushing for support of worker owned productions and business, getting involved with coop housing. Lot easier when you don't have to bump up against the red scare.

Lol I saw the comment that was removed. The comment couldn't have been more neutral saying people who ignore the problems in the most Communist historical societies reduce the perceived integrity of it's proponents.

This mod is the exact antithesis of this meme. Pure censorship.

I grew up under a communist regime that disappeared entire families and would keep their boot on our necks while they lived like Kings. Tell me how I'm brainwashed Mr. White kid who grew up in North America

It is bad tho lol

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😂 There is a spectre haunting Lemmy — the spectre of communist bots & trolls 👻

It's funny cause it's truuueee

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An interesting exercise is to replace "Communism is bad" with "Climate change is coming" and interrogate how we feel about that and why.

It is interesting to reflect that propaganda is involved for all kinds of policy application, including science. As someone trained in sciences, it's always a bit uncomfortable seeing folks extolling science as the exclusive solution to everything. The role of science in society is deeply tied up with values, norms, and policy. I think it's always good to have a healthy dose of critical self reflection, so we can engage better on the level of humanized reasoning, rather than on the level of regurgitated propaganda.

My grandparents would like a word, since they barely escaped communist rule, while their siblings/other family members didn't.

They could tell you first hand what it was like.

So go ahead and call me brainwashed.

It's worse when you say you're a Communist or say Communism is good, and people agree, but when you advocate for AES or advocate for standard Marxist theory the same people flip on you and call you brainwashed.

This is like the opposite experience I had. Everyone said capitalism is bad and I get down voted to die if I say I disagree.

There are enough examples why communism is bad. And few in favor of communism. But the left consists of far more then just communism. Many of those systems do work but the right labels everything left as communism, as communism is an extreme which fails every time. There are other forms derived from Marxism and forms of anarchism which are far superior. They are just not that great for mega corporations and billionaires, you know, the ones with all the power. The actual right wing propaganda out there is labeling anything left as communism which is completely dumb.

I think the first time I interacted with anti-communism propaganda was Seinfeld. I didn't get it then. Still don't get it now.

"But... but.... communism had never been tried!"

"That wasn't real communism!"

"Read the theory!"

"Communism is the solution to climate change."--- proceeds to industrialise Aral Sea leading to shrinkage; and built the Three Gorges Dam leading to the massive deforestation and loss of biodiversity in flooded lands

why are all texts in different fonts

Yay Look what have we here. Lemmy.ml comics memes being totally self ironic

Now the question is do I want to lose my valuable time trying to argue with commie midwits over and over. Probably not. I have a tea party with John Rawls in 15 minutes

This is literally on .ml, why are liberals flooding the comments.

Look, I'm no fan of capitalism. Socialist/communist dictatorships are still sort of worse tho..... Both have challenges, and bluntly, at least with democracy/capitalism, there's a chance we can recover from pretty much any horrible crap that goes down.

... For the most part, we won't, but there's at least a chance.

Communal/social services, which are technically socialist/Communist, are also not necessarily bad. Look at fire departments, as an example.

The guitarist in the fourth panel... is that Rock Against Communism? I've never actually seen bands, especially good ones, go "Yeah, fuck Communism! Gold for the gold god!" A lot of the best concerts were like those at Woodstock, or they'd be underground punk shows, or large arenas where the singer is sick and tired of record companies. If the fourth panel were really happening, it'd probably be Bumfuck-Nowhere, U.S.A.

Lots of commy post lately...

Every system is bad and will ultimately fail for the vast majority. As long as humans partake in it.

I just returned from the Berlin Wall memorial and the GDR museum and all I can say to that is 'fuck that noise'. Communism always led to an authoritarian murderous regime with no regard for the needs of their people. Yes capitalism fucking sucks but living under communism sucks even harder.

Hey mods; we all know the truth you're trying to hide.

Weak social stance you have there 🤷

well, it's not that communism in itself is bad, but so far every implantation of it was bad

Communism in theory is amazing, but in reality no such thing can exist, since our species are not able of this kind of cooperation. Socialism on the other hand is pretty much possible, but we have a long way to accomplish that.

Now imagine it’s “capitalism” and all the movies, talking heads, schools, and rock stars are railing against capitalism.

Give me a good, real world example of a working communist country. The difference between propaganda and education are facts. That, or removed by mod me.

Both are bad one (captlism) is slight ok but communism just pure garbage

Socialist governance seems to require concentrating an extraordinary amount of power in elite government decision makers; this tends to produce a new ruling class, the widespread deprivation of political rights for everyone else, and crippling poverty.

If communism worked, there would nation using it. There's none.

Mix of capitalism and communism is best. Go too far in any direction and you're fucked.

So we can say the same thing about climate change, COVID, etc.

You can go have fun living in a communist country though. God speed.

Well I'm sure it was explained why but tell me about the benefits of Nazi Germany. I'll wait. 🤔