How dare you use a text editor because it's easy to use

On my laptop, I update my bashrc on Excel, in Wine, then export it as a PDF, OCR to .md, Pandoc it to an .Org, and then finally, write it down on paper and re-type it on my phone's Termux's Emacs instance, then TRAMP it to my PC, in the other room.

I use biebian, btw.

Nah... vim users fight emacs users, but not nano users. Wrong league. We do not beat little children ;)

I once fixed my bashrc file with libreoffice

nano friends rise up!

nano gang

Vim is pretty easy for me because I'm used to it. Nano is very difficult to use for me because I've rarely used it.

Sometimes you don't even have the luxury of nano. Any moderately advanced Linux user should probably learn the basics of vi. Just knowing how to insert text and save it can fix a system that's stuck in recovery. Even if it's just to add a comment in front of a line in a config file.

I’ve come to the conclusion, people who use vim just continue to do so out of a stubborn sense of pride for finally learning the key combinations.

Vim (or emacs, or any other advanced text editor) is much easier to use than nano when you need to do something more complex than type couple of lines.

You noobs. I just use combinations of cat piped to sed to edit my files, which are mainly lisp code.

Average vim user: vim is easy.

Also average vim user: literally hours of reading tutorial pages on how to use vim.

The Terminator is not here to kill you, its here to protect you from Emacs (which can change its form to anything).

The best text editor is ‘$EDITOR’.

I'll say that I find easier to exit vim that to exit nano.

I don't know what ^ means. I just start pressing special keys until it doesn't the thing

In every post of this kind I am amazed at so many people using nano instead of micro which is SO MUCH BETTER while being the same thing at the same time.

I started on Unix systems using Vim, so I find Nano to be the confusing editor. A Vim install is one of the first things I do on a new server.

That's like the picture of a normal dude with Nano, a large Vim dude, a larger buff Emacs dude and an ever larger massive Ed dude.

I like nano tho it has some strange shortcuts

There's always ed for masochists.

Nano isn't even that simple. Ctrl+X to quit? I guess if you use phonetic sounds to figure out how to exit a program. At least Vim uses the idea of "use what the words start with."

I personally use micro in the terminal, and Kate if I want a GUI to write. Vim and Emacs are fine for those who want it, I have no stakes in the editor wars beyond "I just want my program to do what I want, and I want it to be simple to learn."

Isn't this supposed to be VIM vs Emac? What's is there point to be programming in the terminal anyway? Nano is good to fix some config files while your are in there, but if I needed to do real programming I'll be finding something that works in the GUI.

The Holy Trinity: VIM, Arch, and Rust

Micro for the win

Easy is relative. What are you trying to do? Replace a value in an yaml file? Then nano is easier. Trying to refactor a business critical perl/brainfuck polyglot script in production? Then you probably want to use vim (or emacs if you are one of those people)

The problem I had with nano is that, for the time being, it was supposed to be easy to use. With that in account I always get lost when saving a file and closing the thing because one's used to doing something else with Ctrl+O and Ctrl+X.

Whereas with Vim (and Neovim for a little while, and now with Vis) I knew it had a steep learning curve from the start so I always had it in mind. And all the funny stories about quitting vim.

idk man, vims pretty chill, it even has a tutor in it already, what more could you want?

I just use this:

#!/bin/bash

keep_generating=1
while [[ $keep_generating == 1 ]]; do
    dd if=/dev/random of=$1 bs=1 count=$2 status=none
    echo Contents of $1 are:
    cat $1
    echo
    read -p "Try generating again? " -s -n1 answer
    while true; do
        case $answer in
            [Yy] )
                echo
                break
                ;;
            [Nn] )
                keep_generating=0
                break
                ;;
            *)
        esac
        read -s -n1 answer
    done
done

is there not a single other person who uses helix?

Emacs users laughing at VIM users.

Emacs - A pretty good OS you can use as a text editor.

Micro is where its @ <3

modal editing can be fun. it is a weird skill like driving a manual transmission.

that said driving a manual transmission in stop and go traffic on a hot day is a lot like editing in vi sometimes.

For vim I had to config or install something just to be able to COPY something to use outside vim, how backwards is that? Isn't this the most standard feature one can expect to work as default?

Me on Micro

Nano is my "daily drive", but I'd use vim as well -- takes a couple seconds to search for "how to type in linux vim" and "how to save a file in linux vim" anyways. :^)

I started on Emacs and then didn't use it for a few years and forgot everything so now I'm stuck on Nano. But that's fine because nano does everything I want it to do.

kwrite and gedit friends rise up :)

Ed users entered the chat

Emacs

I spent the weekend failing to make my civ mods work, with a thousand lines of notes.. 2/3 in, I think "damnit blazeknave. You spend months perfecting this stupid fucking obsidian setup, and you've been here in notepad+ like a fucking jabroni."

Imagine using Nano or Vim; when you could be using Cat and Echo.

/s

Worst is when installing a new distro(usually in a vm ) and it defaults to nano and for some weird reason no vi of any sort is installed. I hated nano. Last time I intentionally used something like nano was the 90s with pine I think.

Greybeard here. I can use vi, emacs, nano, etc. and use whatever is available if it suits the job. For many years I did dev in emacs on my computers and on other systems used vi for quick edits. Currently on my own laptop I have micro as default term editor now. For Rust development - code, though I have hopes for Lapce.

They're all just tools and so are people who get tribal about things.

Butterfly gang

There is always the Joe editor, if you like good ol' Wordstar. :)

If I'm doing quick txt editing nano is great and what I know I can't figure vim out for the live of me

I so would love to downvote this to oblivion.

Its lighter weight

Get'er Robbie she's under the desk!

Memes like this make me glad I only usd Linux at work. You don’t get this petty micromanaging shit between windows users.

My problem with those are that I always manage to get lost on where the program has its focus/what kind of instruction is expecting. And while trying to go back to normal I end up messing it more and more. Maybe some day I will get there, but it is still not the day.

gedit supremacy

Nano is notepad, but with worse mouse integration. It's Vim/Emacs without any of the features. It's the worst of both worlds

If you want ease, just use a GUI notepad. If you want performance boosts, suck it up and learn Emacs or Neovim

Vim's keybinds are intuitive and Nano's keybinds are completely unusable, if you're asking me. I cannot use Nano without becoming horribly frustrated immediately. The reason "how to exit Vim" is a meme, is because everyone's been there, one time. The difference is that you never stop not knowing how to exit Nano. I also hate Emacs' default keybinds, but that's mostly because I don't want carpal tunnel syndrome, so that's a different issue; Emacs' keybinds actually do make some amount of sense, in all honesty, even though they're objectively dangerous. Gun to my head, I could probably, technically "use" vanilla Emacs albeit with some difficulty. I cannot possibly use Nano and I would rather get shot.

Vim is way easier tho

The first time I found myself in nano was when testing a distro fifteenor twenty years ago. I had to edit some files and it was the only available editor. The damn thing was a horror to use. I still have no idea who it caters to. I haven't had to use it since though.

Ohh look! a sad scripter editing his tiny little script on a terminal window. How cute.

isn't there a separate instance for memes?

Ugh, I swear vi and it's derivatives are the absolute worse text editors going. There may have been reasons thirty or forty years ago, but now it's just complexity and a weird ui for the sake of it

Vim actually IS easy to use once you get the hang of it, plus more comfortable and efficient.

Nanos just an excuse for lazyness, cmv.

stop using vim, if you want a non modal editor use vim -y